Cannot achieve reverse angle tilt!

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Cannot achieve reverse angle tilt!  

  By: Vincent U on Sept. 15, 2024, 2:35 p.m.

Looking for some guidance on reverse angle tilt. I have been working on having a really nice tilt.

Attached is a picture of a great drill I’ve been using to try and feel the position. I can see the tilt when I do the drill.

The attached video is usually the best I can get. It seems almost vertical. Which is definitely better than what I was doing.

The photo in the garage was taken while in the wipe position with club parallel. Then just rotating back into the top of my swing. To me it looks more like what it’s supposed to and with the tucked elbow makes it really easy to drop in. Is this what I should shoot for? I have a really hard time getting into this position in a full swing.

Is this something I should even be concerned about?

Thoughts?

 Last edited by: Vincent U on Sept. 19, 2024, 8:14 p.m., edited 10 times in total.
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Re: Cannot achieve reverse angle tilt!  

  By: Tyler F on Sept. 27, 2024, 8:16 p.m.

I often ask students, "how do you determine what to work on?" It's not an easy question.

So my question is, what are you hoping to accomplish by working on this tilt at the top of the swing? How will you know when it's good enough and time to move on?

I like to work off the big three, contact, direction, and distance. I'd want to decide which of those skills I'm trying to improve and how improving the tilt will change it for the better. Perhaps you've identified something in transition you don't like, and the top has a big influence on it. I could get on board with that.

To me, the top of swing position doesn't look too bad. I can always nit-pick how to make it better (in your case having a little more pelvis tilt and lower ab engagement), but in general, it doesn't look too bad. That said, from this back view it appears that you steepen the trail arm in transition. Perhaps the position at the top is making it harder to avoid steepening the arm in transition. Perhaps post a face on and down the line and the major miss you're trying to solve. That might help me provide better feedback,

Happy Golfing
Tyler

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Re: Cannot achieve reverse angle tilt!  

  By: Vincent U on Oct. 16, 2024, 1:17 p.m.

One thing I am trying to help with fixing the tilt is saving my lower back. I often get lower back pain and think this might be cause. A major reason is the coach I’m seeing now says it’s the reason for my miss. Which is thin, on the heel, and to the right.

To me these things seem to point to a shallow pattern. It also tells me that my low point is behind the ball on these misses. I think a slight sway is also in the mix. Heel contact tells me that my body is moving forward due to something. To me the most likely culprit would be too much upper body?

I would say my qualifications *were to move on once I got close to the models I was looking at.

I would like to work on contact. I also pick the ball clean which again is a shallow pattern. I started practicing some low point drills. Right hand swings. I really don’t think I was motorcycling or getting my hands into position at impact.

 Last edited by: Vincent U on Oct. 19, 2024, 8:14 a.m., edited 10 times in total.
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Re: Cannot achieve reverse angle tilt!  

  By: Tyler F on Oct. 30, 2024, 9:21 a.m.

Thanks for posting the face on and DTL views of the swing. They provide more help.

I like the idea of chasing improved contact, we just want to make sure that the component we’re training will have an influence on our miss pattern. With contact, I’d start at impact. Looking at your impact, I think the thin, right, and heel miss comes from 2 factors. The release shortening the radius a bit and the middle of the body moving into the golf ball slightly. That creates the look of the follow through being more around and narrow vs wide arms in the follow through.

It does look like the top of the swing avoids loading the core, but I think that’s secondary to the release pattern.

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

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