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My Roll Release Stall ¶

By: Jeremy P on May 19, 2024, 8:20 p.m.

Hey all, another swing to chat about. This is my current grocery list for the GSA supermarket 😉

- more ulnar deviation at impact
- more motorcycle around P6
- more lead leg and spine extension in my bracing strategy
- more left hand path in follow through (would love to have more of the Jordan Spieth look where the club head is outside the hands around P8)
- continued upper/lower body rotation through the end of the release and follow through

My driver and 3 wood off the tee distances are good for my handicap but would like some more consistent club face control. When I start getting the hook/block pattern off the tee it leads to a pretty tough/stressful day. My shorter irons are pretty solid and accurate for my handicap but when I start getting into the 6-3 iron range I start to get some contact inconsistency, mostly thin shots.

I have two main questions about my swing:
Many videos in the Fix My Flip Playlist talk about ulnar deviation being a big component of fixing a release where the wrists re-hinge after impact. However, I do get into a good extension position in the FO video below, but my forearms just keep rolling through that position. Do I still need more ulnar deviation to fix my roll release?

What impact will working on my bracing strategy have on my release pattern? Most of my grinding on the range has been around the arms and hands so far, but I am wondering if I should switch to working more on my body pivot for a bit.

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Re: My Roll Release Stall ¶

By: Tyler F on June 2, 2024, 9:29 a.m.

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the post, I'm glad you're still grinding at it. Yes, I think working on the body will help complement the arms.

So I think the key piece in your grocery list is the leg extension as part of the bracing. I know that once when we worked on it, it triggered some lower back issues. Are those doing better?

Looking at the DTL view, through impact, ideally, the lead knee works away from the golf ball as the leg straightens. This compliments more of the extension from the trail side. In your case, the knee bend compliments the shoulder throw. The arm throw doesn't look that bad, but the knee bend will still make the extension/bracing tougher. (for the visual, see the quick clip of pro swings)

Also, in connecting the dots. The ulnar deviation should compliment more of the vertical action from the legs and core. I think you actually have pretty good range of ulnar in the follow through, but it looks like it starts a little late because of the lack verticals from the legs. If you can get better lower body usage, that usually helps the long irons and makes the driver less leftward.

Good luck!
Tyler

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Re: My Roll Release Stall ¶

By: Jeremy P on June 2, 2024, 10:40 a.m.

Love it, thanks Tyler. Yes, your memory is correct. I remember a specific range session near the beginning of our time working together where I first felt my low back pain, and I was starting to work on my bracing strategy. At this point in my golf journey I am hitting a tiny fraction of the golf balls that I used. Hopefully the lower repetitions will preserve my back some. Any thoughts on things to focus on while working on my bracing strategy to protect the low back some? I regret to admit my hips and hamstrings are still very tight (probably tighter now that I work a sit-down desk job).

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Re: My Roll Release Stall ¶

By: Tyler F on June 9, 2024, 2:27 p.m.

Jeremy,

Yes, the lower reps will help, but the most important key is making sure that you're doing the motion more from the hips and rib cage while the abs stay active. I know you did some rehab there, so hopefully you're better at keeping your abs on during the bracing move. Yes, finding the balance of health while starting your career isn't an easy balance, but you're smart, I'm sure you'll figure it out :)

Happy Golfing,
Tyler