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New member - pulling left, thin and toe down at impact ¶

By: Benis C on May 25, 2023, 4:10 p.m.

As stated in the subject, I pull every shot left with every single club... I feel like I have tried everything:
-Grip
-Lowering/upping dynamic loft
-Sliding/not sliding
-Exiting low, exiting high
-Coming from the inside (my natural tendency)
-Coming from the outside
-Coming in steep
-Coming in shallow
-Keeping the face open (great if you want to play a slice!)
-If its a swing aid, I have tried it

Any ideas? :)

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Re: New member - pulling left, thin and toe down at impact ¶

By: Tyler F on May 27, 2023, 7:55 a.m.

The face on picture below has pull written all over it. I think your pull is coming from being "steep at the bottom". It looks like a combination of the lead arm shoulder blade pulling down and around and the trail arm joining it and going into more internal rotation. Which isn't directly attacked by any of the swing thoughts you mentioned. It could be related to coming in shallow and/or exiting high, but usually golfers with the shoulder pull pattern cheat and come in shallow from the body or exit high with the body or wrists instead of the shoulders.

I think this is my best explanation of the pattern, https://www.golfsmartacademy.com/golf-instruction/connecting-scapular-alignment-impact-alignment/, but for you it will probably be a combination of the arm being higher and feeling more internal longer (face will feel a mile open at first). You could also look at these two explanations.
https://www.golfsmartacademy.com/golf-instruction/moe-norman-arm-drill/
https://www.golfsmartacademy.com/golf-instruction/block-trail-arm-throw/

Good luck!

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

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Re: New member - pulling left, thin and toe down at impact ¶

By: Benis C on May 27, 2023, 3:41 p.m.

Hi! What do you mean by "--and feeling more internal longer"?

Thank you for the reply by the way, makes sense! :)

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Re: New member - pulling left, thin and toe down at impact ¶

By: Tyler F on May 28, 2023, 10:06 a.m.

Feeling more internal rotation of the lead shoulder, or keeping the lead elbow pointing right of the target longer. It can help with avoiding the lead arm pull pattern. Like the picture of Brooks below.

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Re: New member - pulling left, thin and toe down at impact ¶

By: Benis C on May 28, 2023, 11:07 a.m.

Ah okay, thanks for the clarification!

Do you happen to know why I get the shanks/hit it mile left while doing the moves and drills you mentioned? Videos as an example.

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Re: New member - pulling left, thin and toe down at impact ¶

By: Tyler F on June 9, 2023, 7:11 a.m.

Sorry for the delay, I was traveling recently.

A shank can come from a handful of patterns. Some of the most common culprits are:
- moving into the golf ball
- moving the upper body down excessively during the downswing
- handpath getting too much out toward the target line early
- feeling the weight of the shaft instead of the weight of the club head

Looking at the two swings you posted, I actually like the body position on the shank a little better than the heel hit. The second swing you corrected the shank by moving too much into the heels. I'd focus on possibly staying taller in the abs (turtle shell). Or I would do some heel/toe ground contact awareness to work on feeling the clubhead better and the shaft less.