Struggling to get shaft lean

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Struggling to get shaft lean  

  By: bergin40 on Oct. 14, 2024, 6:18 p.m.

I have been a member for a couple months and the site has really helped me with my ball striking. I have really been trying to obtain shaft lean and stop stalling at the bottom. I am aware of the arm dominate back swing that I plan to work on this winter. Any ideas out there to get rid of the “hit” instinct.

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Re: Struggling to get shaft lean  

  By: bergin40 on Oct. 22, 2024, 12:01 p.m.

Tyler -

As an add on to my above post. When I went back and watched all your videos again, it seems to me that the main issue that is causing my arms to be behind my lead leg at impact is being caused by the buckled trail leg, started doing your drills for that. I have uploaded a still shot of my swing vs. Korda and I can clearly see that my hips and upper body have slid much further than they should. I have also attached a 10-2 FO ( sorry for the bad camera) showing this new feel. Though this swing looks better, I get spiked AOA number (8.5-9.5) down on my GC3. I have been working on the unhinge, wipe and motorcycle though guessing it will take some time to perfect. Also added an old video, couple of weeks showing the DOL view.

Been playing golf since childhood and about 3 years ago, fixed a obvious sway off the ball in the take away, though I have not fixed it on the downswing, I have only steepened my swing to compensate.

I am a 1.0 HI, play 60-70 times per year and this winter really want to change my swing to be more consistent, and get to scratch. People would say that I am really good wedge player within 120, good long iron player and 3W, and short and inconsistent off the tee, above average putter and decent chipper and good pitcher. my typical shot pattern is a straight or small pull/ fade with the irons and hit a bigger slice with the driver. I cannot draw the driver which is another goal of mine. Your unhinge video I think is my key to stop being over the top at the bottom of the arc.

Any ideas you have would help, especially a certain order of working on these drills to start incorporating into my swing. I have learned the hard way that you can't work on them all at the same time, ie. trying to implement, wipe, unhinge, motorcycle.

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Re: Struggling to get shaft lean  

  By: Dave S on Oct. 22, 2024, 3:33 p.m.

Hi, what is the name of the app you are using to compare your swing to a pro? I like that you can draw lines, angles and compare to a pro.

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Re: Struggling to get shaft lean  

  By: bergin40 on Oct. 22, 2024, 3:36 p.m.

It’s an app call V1 Golf- works great

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Re: Struggling to get shaft lean  

  By: Tyler F on Oct. 30, 2024, 9:23 a.m.

Hi Bergin,

Sorry for the delay, I gave a speech to a group of instructors at the TPI Summit this past weekend and I was busy prepping for my presentation.

I’m glad you added the second clip of videos (DTL) as well as the broader description. I was going to comment on the first face on video that you look like you have a pretty solid swing, so we have to be careful not to lose things chasing shaft lean. But I always feel more comfortable working on a swing when the short game is solid 

As far as your move, the pieces do fit. I think your shaft lean issue is a combination of two things, the middle of the body (center of the swing) has a tendency to move down into the golf ball. Also, the arms at impact have a bit of a shoulder spin through the ball. The left shoulder works it’s way down while the trail shoulder moves up and forward. This shoulder throw at the bottom creates the release more behind your body and encourages the slight stall. It also makes it hard to get a driver draw path without early extending. It also fits the pattern of the angle of attack getting steeper if you do get shaft lean.

But I do want to say that I really like your follow through position, I’m hoping that you use that as an anchor if you get off for any reason.

The shoulder closed/back to the target feel is the big shallower that you’re missing. It’s common in the recovery from a sway pattern. I would start with some shoulder blade awareness and 9 to 3 feeling the back stay closed longer. That will show up as a lead arm that stays higher longer into the finish.

The second, complimentary piece, would be the turtle shell, which includes your trail leg buckle idea. You could work on them in tandem, or see which one is easier and start there.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Tyler

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