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This video is discussing across the line or laid off at the top of the swing.

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So I had a member question basically asking if being laid off at the top of the swing is

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okay.

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And I thought that would be a good opportunity to just discuss what's important with

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the top of the swing.

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Why is it why would it be bad to be possibly really across the line like this or why

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would it be bad to be really laid off like that?

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So in this video we're going to relate what's going on at the top of the swing and what

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we need to do in the downswing.

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One simple way that I try to work in the top of the swing is by going through rewind from

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delivery.

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So basically this is roughly where we're trying to get to in the downswing where the shaft

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is close to parallel to my body instead of perpendicular to my spine instead of parallel

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to my spine.

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Or it's basically parallel to the target kind of like this.

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Well, if I am across the line at the top of the swing and if I brought myself back to

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basically a setup position with my body you can see that the shaft is very vertical.

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If I was to go to the top of the swing get really laid off and I brought it back to where

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the top of the swing or the setup would be.

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You can see that it's very horizontal.

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So one way to think about the top of the backswing is more laid off is pre-shallowed and

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a more across the line position requires more shallowing.

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So if I'm going to be steeping across the line so if my arms are very vertical then I

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really have to have the kind of the temperament that I'm going to have a lot of waiting

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and a lot of patience as the club shallows during this phase here before applying speed

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down at the bottom where if it's already pre-shallowed I may be okay going at it a little

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bit harder earlier.

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So matching where I am at the top of the swing with the timing of how I'm going to

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create speed is not a bad way to look at it.

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The other way to look at it is if I tend to struggle with more of a steeping transition

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kind of either phase control or driver issues then I may be better working on trying to get

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a little bit pre-shallowed because I'm having a hard time balancing the amount of shallows

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at the top.

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Conversely if I'm more laid off at the top and I may be looking to get a little bit more

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distance I may be looking to possibly improve some wedge play.

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There are other reasons why I might want to get steeper but what I want you to start thinking

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of is there's no arbitrary just perfect top of the back swing position.

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It really relates to what's going on in the downswing.

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So if you think backward based on where you are in the downswing and how it relates to

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the top it'll give you a better idea as far as what to change.

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One other quick point is where the club is at the top also depends on how much my body

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has turned.

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If I have the club in this position here and I stop it like a three-quarter look this

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might appear like it's laid off.

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If I kept pivoting inside bending and went to the top of the swing from here, well there

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you might see that it's closer to on plane.

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That's another reason why you might want to not just arbitrarily chase some perfect

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top of the backswing position because the length of the swing, how you're creating speed

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all play a role.

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But if I could simplify it in the one classic rule, if it's across the line you have to

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shallow it a lot more.

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If it's laid off you have to shallow it less and you can use that to your advantage if you're

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trying to control certain contact misses.

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If you're struggling with lots of fat and thin shots, toe and heel or if you're struggling

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with path control on the downswing.

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So if you tend to get the path going really shallow or right word late, kind of more like

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this, you might do better getting a little bit more laid off at the top.

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If you tend to get really steep in a cross, you may actually do better having a little bit

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more shallow during the downswing so you could vary the top of the backswing position.

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It's a help make shallowing a little bit easier for you.

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But be sure to relate the top of the swing to transition and where you are in the downswing.

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Don't just chase an arbitrary, perfect top of the backswing feel.

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Okay, so now I'm going to try and demonstrate a few of these.

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The easier one for me, if I exaggerate this shallowness or laid off position at the top

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of the swing, then I can just swing a little bit harder with my arms straight away.

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It's not the worst position for me to play from.

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For me, the cross line is a little bit harder because I have a tendency to get too shallow

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late.

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So if I get really across the line, kind of like that, let me just dial in a few of those

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feels so if I get really across the line.

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Like I said, it's harder for me to make contact from there.

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I'll see if I can wait a little bit longer on this next one.

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I was a little bit early.

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I could feel myself resisting and pulling a bit too much on that.

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So let me get across the line again.

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There we go.

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So you can see if you have the tempo and the timing to wait for it across the line is not

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bad because it can give you a little extra speed.

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If you are airing more on, I'm going to pull on a quicker, then you might do better

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trying to get a little bit flatter.

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Always relate what you're doing at the top of the swing.

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It's a delivery position.