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In this analysis video, we're going to take a look at the motorcycle movement.

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So I had a question from one of the members about,

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can you do the motorcycle at the top of the swing instead of trying it to do it during transition?

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So I thought I'd do an analysis video where we take a look at the, where the motorcycle

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move really came from and how you can see it on 2D and what it looks like on 3D.

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Because you'll see on 3D it's pretty apparent what pros are doing with their lead wrist in order to help

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control the club face to set up for a more body-powered swing. So these two golfers here

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tend to have a more classic motorcycle pattern. And there's three places you can look for at the

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wrist position in order to determine when they're doing their motorcycle movement. The first checkpoint

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is when the shaft is parallel in the back swing. And what you're just going to look for is the angle

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between the wrist and the forearm. And you'll see that both of these golfers have a little bit of

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extension of that lead wrist. So they didn't really flex the wrist or do any of that motorcycle

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movement during the takeaway. And you can see in both cases the club face is just slightly

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more closed in the classic sense or just slightly more rotated down than vertical.

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Okay so now if we go up to the second checkpoint we're going to look at the top of the swing.

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So there might have been a little bit there. The wrist is pretty close to flat. It's definitely not

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100% but it's pretty close to flat. So we know that possibly they just then over on the right

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did some during that part of the swing. And or we don't see quite as much of a change so you can

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still see that there is a bit of an extension at that position there. So neither of these guys

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are really major backswing motorcyclists. So now sometimes it's a little harder to see. So I zoomed

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in so that we can look at their wrist here in transition. And now if I just kind of scrub back

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and forth you can see right there at the top of the swing. As he's already started shifting his

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weight and shifting his pressure you can see that that left wrist is starting to flex. And so then

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that second checkpoint is looking at the shaft roughly when it gets back down to where it was

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or back down to parallel. So now if you remember in the backswing his wrist was slightly bent this way

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and so now at this point is significantly bent the other way. He's flex that lead wrist

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probably a good 30 or 40 degrees and we saw most of it was done between the top of the swing

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because it's pretty straight there and that position there. So this would be more of the classic

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transition motorcycle movement. If we look at Henrik we're going to see less exaggerated but

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the same pattern. So when we get him down to about shaft parallel you'll see that there's a slight

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amount of bow. He's not one of the ones who does a he doesn't have the 40 50 degrees of movement

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like a Justin Thomas. He may be more in the lower end more like the 2030. But if I bring him back

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to his takeaway position you can see that okay right there there's clearly more

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extension in that lead wrist and then by the timing gets down to their after transition you can see that

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there is significantly less. That is the motorcycle movement and these two are demonstrating the most

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classic timing which is happening during transition. Before we look at the timing of what other

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tour pros do let's look at some 3D graphs to make it easier to see what we're about to look for.

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On the x-axis you have a timeline so you have a dress position top of the swing impact

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and finish. So here are the different phases of the golf swing and then on the y-axis this represents

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flexion and this represents extension. So the more that the graph is going down like this or is negative

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the golfer if it's negative they are in an extended position if it's going negative they are

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extending. If it the graph is positive they are flexing or sorry they're in a flexion position

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if it is going positive or trending upward then they are flexing. So basically from a dress position

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this golfer had about 13 degrees of extension which is a little low so this is let's say a weaker

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grid. During the backswing they increased their extension about 10 degrees or so so that they had about

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25 degrees at the top. So a little bit of cup at the top of the swing right here and then all this

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from here to here this positive movement is flexing the wrist until this position here which is about

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shaft parallel or a little bit after shaft parallel. So the majority of the downswing this golfer

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is pretty consistently flexing that lead wrist which will rotate the face in a more close position.

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This transition flexion like this is the classic version of the motorcycle movement.

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All right in the second graph we have another PJ tour winner and this golfer is demonstrating

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more of the backswing version of the motorcycle movement. So what you'll notice is the between

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address and top of the swing that's where we see a big uptake and it's really this is about

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shaft parallel so it's really during setting the club where this golfer is flexing the wrist

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or doing a pretty massive motorcycle movement because you can see that they started around 45 degrees

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extended and then at the top of the swing they've gone to a slightly you know five maybe even

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78 degrees of flex. Now what you'll see is they don't really increase it any more from there. In fact

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they decrease it a little bit as they're kind of going through that early transition maybe they're pulling

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down just slightly with the arms which causes that the typically increase but you'll see that coming

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into impact there's a little bit of an increase so this movement here is typically from

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created more when the body is rotating as opposed to pulling too much with the arms but then you'll

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see the classic release of that position so then at impact it's called for a had a stronger grip

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and you'd see it impact they have a slight extension of the wrist or a slight cup so they're not

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totally bold at impact but you can see compared to when where they started they are somewhere about

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30 or 40 degrees more flexed than they were at set up so if transition is the most common

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and the backswing is probably the second most common this is by far the least common and this is

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more of a release motorcycle this golfer will tend to look like they have a open or extended wrist

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down in transition we'll look at a couple examples of golfer who have more of this pattern so you'll see

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that this golfer started with a weaker grip flexed during the takeaway but then extended it to

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cup the wrist and create more of like a vertical lag situation at the top of the swing now

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this golfer starts the flex a little bit but it's kind of plateau here as they have a pretty

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pronounced cup midway through the downswing so this is a golfer where you would look at them at

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let's say somewhere around here is probably shaft parallel and somewhere around here is shaft parallel

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and you would say that this golfer is actually more extended during the downswing than they were

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in the backswing but then what would be hard to see is you would look at them at impact and you would

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notice that they had a significant amount of flexion in that lead wrist at impact so they would look like

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they had a boat or flat left wrist even though at at delivery position they still had a cup to wrist

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so this is the minority I haven't seen too many golfer's like this where it's flexing

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and doing the motorcycle movement of about 30-40 degrees in this short period of time but there are

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at least a handful of examples who do this pattern pretty well. Lastly we'll look at a higher

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handicap amateur golfer who battles with a slice and now you'll see why the motorcycle movement is one

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of the critical movements to developing your stock tour swing so right around here he starts at about

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20 degrees no problem flexes the wrist during the takeaway so kind of has a inside and shut

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look at shaft parallel and then during the second part of the backswing he tends to extend the

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wrist and really kind of cup it as he's hinging his wrist so he tends to have a look of a really

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big wrist set at the top of the swing where he's got somewhere around 30 degrees of extension of the wrist

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and you'll see he tries to start with his body and he tries to give a little bit of the

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motorcycle movement but it's the scale here it's most of the pros we're doing at about 30-40 degrees

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you can see that he's doing it somewhere around 15 and then the bigger problem is because he had

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increased the amount of extension at the top of the swing that 15 degrees barely gets it past where it

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was set up and then when he hits the ball you can see right there he's hitting the ball with more

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extension in the wrist than he had it set up that means that he's opened the club face compared

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to where it was it set up and the only way that he's going to hit this street is if his hands

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are back so he doesn't have shaft lane and if he swings more outside in that's the only way that

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he's going to get this wrist position to hit the ball at the target so if you're trying to get

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more shaft lane if you're trying to get out of a slicing pattern learning the flexion move learning

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the motorcycle move is one of the key movements that you'll want to incorporate in your swing

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in the rest of video we're going to take a look at those two other examples of Torpros who

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do the motorcycle movement either to end the backswing or during the release okay so here we

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have two golfers who are going to then demonstrate more of the backswing motorcycle so here at the

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first checkpoint you've got the wrist is slightly extended pretty close to flat and then as he

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goes up towards the top of the swing you'll see he's got it in a boat position so you can see the

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between that first checkpoint and this one here he has increased that flexion and then by the time

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he gets down to shaft parallel he's increased it a little bit more but most of it was done

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during that setting phase during the backswing he probably would be a blend of some backswing

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some transition haven't actually seen his 3D graph though now you may see notice that the two

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examples I'm using for this backswing motorcycle movement hit the ball fairly long I can tell you

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that the 3D graph that I used was a PGA tour winner but he's definitely not one of the longer he's

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probably not even in the top 100 in terms of distance so I don't want you to think that doing it

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in the backswing is more powerful but for some it does especially some amateurs it's a little bit

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simpler because you don't have to focus quite so much on movement during transition so here we have

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Dustin again that checkpoint you can see just a little bit of flexion there and then as he gets to the

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top of the swing you'll see a very pronounced amount of flexion and then as he comes down

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you'll see relatively close to the same amount he had at the top of the swing he's going to look a

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lot closer to that backswing motorcycle graph okay so it's a little bit trickier to see the release

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motorcycle so I'm going to show you two different golfers we're going to look at Roy over here from

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this is Roy Sabotini we'll look at him from both views and you'll see it's a little bit harder to see

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the amount of extension from the face on but the only reason I'm going to use the face on is so that we can

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confirm that at impact and just past impact you'll see that he's got a fair amount of bow to

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that wrist right so here's pretty much the top of the the radius and then the hand is a boat a little bit

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away from that okay so now if I fast forward to his down line you'll see that when I get him down

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first let's do the takeaway checkpoint so take away checkpoint you can see

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fairly straight okay we know he's going to increase that by impact when I get him back down to that

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checkpoint you'll see that it's still fairly straight if I go one frame let's go up you can see that

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it looks like it still has a fair amount of cup to it and it's pointing well up towards the sky

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compared to the other two so that means that between here and impact is when he's doing that lead

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wrist flexion move or that motorcycle movement over on the right we have John Senden this is a

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great close up of the hands and so we don't even have to really look at it from down the line you can

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see here that there's clearly a fair amount of extension now here's where the release

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motorcycle movement will really come into view so he's going to go and as he's approaching

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impact you can see that as he was releasing the club he was also flexing the wrist it's hard to

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see because the wrist is rotating at the same time you can see it's got a fair amount of extension

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there and then at impact all that extension is gone so you do have the option as far as when to choose

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to work on the motorcycle movement you can either do it during the backswing and just kind of try to

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keep it there or you can do it during transition that's the most common time or you can do it during

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the release that requires more of a hands feeling but some guys really like the feeling in the lead

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wrist went bowing through impact so those are three different versions of the motorcycle movement

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if you're having a hard time putting this movement into your golf swing then it could be more of the

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shaft shallowing or more of being blocked by sequencing or shaft shallowing or what the right

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arm is doing there's lots of reasons but this is a key movement for you to train if you really want

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a master of your golf striking so if you're looking for these key movements you'll start to see

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that some of the weirder swings like let's say a gym if you're still demonstrate the key movements

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common with most good ball strikers so you'll see you saw not a lot of flexion not a lot of

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flexion and then by the time he gets down to shaft parallel you can see there's kind of the angle

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of the wrist there's or the form and there's the wrist and see about 20 degrees of flexion or so

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so he's more of the classic transition motorcyclist but you'll start to see the common moves that

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build up an elite golf swing and you'll learn to discount some of the unique timing movements that

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make their swings their own individual version of the stock tour swing