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Closed at the top of the swing

If you're struggling with a closed clubface pattern, then determining when the clubface is closed is a critical step to diagnosing a quick solution. If the clubface is closed at the top, then you should check to see if it was closed at shaft parallel in the backswing. If the clubface is not closed at the top of the swing, but you still struggle with a big pull or hook pattern, then you know it was more of a downswing error.

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This concept video is discussing having the club face too closed at the top of the swing.

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So it is possible to have the club face too close at the top of the swing and it can cause

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a predictable set of problems down at the bottom.

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Or let's say this.

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Let's say you're looking at your golf swing and you notice that you have a closed club

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face.

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If you're going through the timeline you want to figure out when.

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So in this video we're going to discuss how to tell if it's too close at the top of

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the swing and why.

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So as a rough guide I'm going to use my left arm like so and I'm going to look at the club

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face angle compared to that left arm.

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If that club face angle is pointing more up towards the sky that would be closed if it's

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more closer to parallel that would be square if it's pointing more vertically down that

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would be open.

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So what we're talking about here would look something like that where actually probably

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something like that where the club face is in a closed position up at the top of the

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swing.

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Now you'll notice that a number of really elite level ball strikers are doing that

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on purpose because it sets up some good dynamics as far as body rotation, lag, things

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like that that are really helpful for the longer clubs.

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So golfers like Dustin Johnson, Colin Mourikawa, tend to get more into this really closed

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position to help support their downswing.

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But if you don't have the impact position to match the closed club face perhaps you

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want to change the club face instead of changing the body angles.

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That's totally a golfer decision but let's discuss why you might have an overly close

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club face.

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So the two main causes are either I'm setting up with it really closed or I'm rotating

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closed in the backswing.

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So if we're looking at the setup we're going to do a real quick grip test where I've

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got the left wrist parallel to the ground.

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A strong grip would look more like this where the club compared to this down the line

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camera angle is somewhere let's say north of 30 to 40 degrees like this.

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So now if I brought this back you could see that from a grip perspective when I get

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that club face pointing at the target I can see all four knuckles the line on my grip

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is pointing way out here so to the right of my shoulder and that right hand would be more

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underneath kind of like this.

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This is a very strong grip position.

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This can feel solid in the shoulder so some golfers actually like that feeling but it requires

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either a big chicken wing to hold off the club face which we don't like or it requires

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a lot of body rotation and leaving that club behind which can be a challenge for some

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golfers.

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So if I check that position and my grip isn't too strong it's in more of a neutral or

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slightly strong position then it means that I'm doing it by twisting the club too much

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in the backswing.

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That can either happen from the left wrist bowing kind of like this which a fair

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number of especially ladies tend to do.

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It can create a little bit more stability in the bicep for lifting the club but it gets

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us in a tougher position especially if we're not going to rotate a lot on the way down.

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Or I could do it too much usually in company with getting this right arm into a flying

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position so that this right arm is pointing almost across and down like this.

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So the club looks like it's in a really strong position and that's mostly because of

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this trail wrist and shoulder kind of getting disconnected and getting too much on top.

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If I want to see if it's more grip or the setting then I can always look here at the

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takeaway position.

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So if I have a really strong grip then when I come back you'll see that compared to the

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V on the right hand the club faces more close this way.

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If I have more of a neutral grip then it will just be slightly too closed compared to the

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V on my hand like this.

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So if it's really strong like this then that's more from a grip if it's in the same line

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but they're both turn out like this then that's more from my wrist movements.

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So in other videos we'll discuss what you have to do with an overly closed grip like

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I said it can support some really good downswing mechanics but the goal of this video is

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that just help you identify why it might be too close at the top of the swing.

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Okay so this will be easier for me to demonstrate than the club face too open all I have

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to do is rotate and stay ahead of it.

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It can hit some really solid shots.

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Most golfers would that really strong grip because they're rotating to stay ahead of

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it will tend to hit more of a feed rather than an actual draw.

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