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Discussing Backswing Drill - Turn Then Extend

The video answers a member question regarding the backswing drill- turn then extend, outlining its advantages and potential challenges.

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This concept video is discussing the classic backswing

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drill, turn, then extend.

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Um, so I had a member question come in, uh,

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about a backswing drill

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and basically do I like it, um, which is the old classic,

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hold the club on your shoulders just like this,

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and then you're going to make a turn,

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and then you're going to extend your arms

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and basically saying that this is

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an appropriate top of backswing position.

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So I wanted to talk through

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what I think is the good and the bad.

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Um, I don't think it's a terrible drill, um,

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but there are few, uh, a few

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common pitfalls that you have to watch out for.

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Um, first there's a,

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there's a tendency when we do this drill, um, that a lot

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of golfers kind of rotate the whole pelvis as a unit

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and stay flexed forward kind of like this,

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almost more like I was loading up in baseball.

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Um, rather than still getting a little bit more of extension

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and staying more centered.

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So if I was to make, if I was gonna put this here

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and then make a really good pivot, it would,

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my chest would point a little bit more up towards the sky,

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it'd stay a little bit more centered.

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Um, and this, this leg would help, um, create some

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of the side tilt of the pelvis.

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Um, as opposed to when I turn this way

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and then go to extend, it's, it's likely

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that I might turn my shoulders a little bit too level

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and have too much upper body sway

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or upper body translation off the golf wall.

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Um, so again, focusing on this movement here of the spine

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where I have a little bit of shoulder tilt, a little bit

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of extension, still got my core engaged, um,

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and a little bit of, uh,

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hip tilt from the right leg straightening just a bit

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that gets me in a position where now I could extend my arms.

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And the good part about this rail is the extension

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of the arms helps keep the arms

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more in front of the, the chest.

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So it's a good way to get width and,

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and kind of keep a little bit more of

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that trail arm connection.

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I think the thing you have to watch out

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for is some people when they go to extend the arms kind

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of do it more like this, where the,

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the arms are going more into internal rotation like this.

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So kind of like a baseball position

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where the elbows are pointing out, um,

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rather than having a little bit more of this trail

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arm external rotation, like so, so

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when you go to extend your arms, the club should feel heavy.

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If it feels a little bit too balanced,

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then it's likely too vertical

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and your arms are likely in more of this kind

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of baseball position, um, instead of a little bit more golf.

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So one way that I was just showing, um,

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that I think you can, uh, highlight the rotation

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of the arms a little bit better is if you choke up, um, so

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that you're all the way down at the grip

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and then you were to do this

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where it would make that good pivot.

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And then I extend the arms

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and want that club pointing more almost parallel

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to the bottom of your rib cage, kind

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of more like this rather than pointing straight up and down

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or, uh, per of your spine, kind of like this.

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So I don't dislike the drill, um, uh, especially

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as a checkpoint for golfers who tend to have more of kind

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of like a, uh, actually that was a bad, uh,

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pivot for the version.

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But, uh, for golfers who tend to get the arms around,

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especially without a lot of rotation, so some golfers tend

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to kind of get into a backswing pivot

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where they've really loaded the shoulder kind of like this,

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um, where it gets behind.

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I think this drill can be really helpful for, uh, for kind

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of identifying that pattern.

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Um, it does a good job of getting width, so getting the arms

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to extend, um, but you have to be careful with the pivot.

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The the last point that I almost forgot is when you go

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to extend the, the shoulder rotation is a big,

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um, piece to focus on.

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What the other piece

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that I see some people mess up is when they go to extend,

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they do it more from the shoulder

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blades and not just the arms.

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So in order for me to make this good pivot,

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then when I extend my arms, um, my,

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my trail shoulder is still gonna

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have a little bit of a retraction.

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But what'll happen is when golfers do this

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and then they go to reach their arms, you'll see, um,

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oftentimes they will bend

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or round their spine, go into more

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of a flex position and kind of push out.

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And now if I was to do that, you could see

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that the contact would move way behind the golf ball.

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I'd struggle with fat thin.

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Um, so few keys that you, if you want to use this drill, um,

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because you tend to have not enough body rotation

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and your arms get behind, I don't mind it.

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It can be, uh, a good drill for, uh, working

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with a little pause at the top, um, which can help

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with sequencing and the downswing.

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Uh, but you do have to be careful.

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It's not a, a silver bullet drill that everybody needs,

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which was kind of how it was presented in the

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golf magazines when I was growing up.

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So, uh, if you are struggling with your backswing,

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look at it on video, double check the arm drills

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or the body drills to help you develop a little bit more

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solid pivot that'll get you in better position

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to make a really good tour quality downswing.

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All right, so quick little demo.

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Um, so the classic drill,

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I'm gonna bring the club up on my shoulders,

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I'm gonna make my pivot,

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and then I'm going to extend my arms

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and I wanna double check a few things.

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I like having just a little bit of kind of a weight shift.

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And so you'll see, even though I hung out there for

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what felt like an eternity, it allowed me

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to get good sequencing, good positions,

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um, hit a pretty good shot.

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Let's say I did 10 of those.

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It did allow me to feel a little bit more arms in front,

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a little bit better width than

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what I was doing, uh, during warmups.

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So not a bad drill for me today. Now let's try to apply it.

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So we'll try to get a similar, so

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that was a pretty good strike.

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I felt good about the top of the backswing.

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Um, so it's not a bad drill,

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but it does have a few little

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nuances that you have to watch out for.

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If you do, uh, focus on it.

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Um, it can help with width, it can help with the centerness

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of load if you use it correctly.

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And it can set you up for a really good centered position

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where you can then apply a lot of the transition

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and release fundamentals.

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So give it a try.

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If you're struggling with the arms kind

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of getting a little bit too narrow at the top of the swing,

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just be careful about your pivot location.

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