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Live Q&A: Shanks and Yips - Dec 18, 2017

Live Q&A discussing shanking it off the hosel or yips and flinches.

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wanna thank you here will angle this

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down a little bit I want to thank you

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for coming to our live Q&A about the

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shanks and the yips

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so these are these are mostly gonna be

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golf smart Academy members that or

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answering gossamer Academy member

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questions but if you are you know having

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if I'm saying something about whether

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it's the shanks or the yips and you got

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a quick question about it go ahead and

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type something in the chat and I will

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address it as we go through so we'll

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we'll start with the shanks because I

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think that they're a fun topic and

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they're they're kind of a taboo topic

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nobody really likes to talk about them

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or even address them you know there's

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that famous tin cup scene about they're

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just like a virus right and nobody

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really knows how to correct them well I

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would say that I probably coached

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someone into the shanks at least once a

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month or so especially they're coming

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out of a kind of a casting scoop flip

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style pattern

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let me just see if anybody I don't see

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anyone on the chat so if you're if

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you're hearing and watching just say who

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you are where you're from real quick

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because I don't want to go too far into

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it

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and have to start over

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okay so we'll go back into the

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discussion about the shank so Ryan golf

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smart Academy member asked about the

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major cause whether it's more of a

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relationship to the path of the club or

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whether it's more related to the hand

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path and I'll break that down a little

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bit but first sorry I was I was telling

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this little story about the coaching

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people into the shanks so oftentimes if

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you're coming out of a kind of cast

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scoot pattern right so if you're if

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you're coming out of a pattern where

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you're basically getting the arms

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straight early and then bending them on

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the way through when you start to work

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on getting a little bit more arm

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extension it is possible that you can

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start hitting it more on the heel and

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even checking the wall because there's

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really two kind of ways that you'll

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develop the shank one would be if the

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and I'll do it kind of facing the camera

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this way so we'll imagine you're the

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target view so one would be if the hosel

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is simply moving that way so the club

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face starts square like this and it's

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coming into the ball with the clubface

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still square but it's just moved more

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out towards the golf ball that's option

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number one and then option number two

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would be okay we start off here the

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center of the club stays at about the

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same point but now the clubface is

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rotating and coming in wide open and so

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it's hitting the heel there so I would

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say that of the two that first version

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where the club isn't coming in overly

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open but it's just coming a little bit

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more out towards the golf ball like so

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is the most common version here's

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basically what's happening when you're

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getting that version of the shank the

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path of the club or

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we'll look at this wing plane so if I've

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got whatsit let's imagine that instead

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of the club head I've got a weight on

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the end of string so I've got a tennis

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ball in a sock here so if I'm swinging

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the weight around me kind of like this

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my goal is to get that to impact where

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the golf ball was well what can happen

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is I can get swinging that and I can

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just drift out a little bit kind of like

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that well that could come from one of

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two primary areas that could either come

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from just a general weight shift and my

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body shifting more in towards the toes

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especially if I'm not getting a whole

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lot of rotation if I'm shifting in

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towards the toes without getting a

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rotation that can just move the hand

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path or the swing path out to the golf

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ball and the other one would be if that

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trail arm is getting out away and

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straightening too soon so it's kind of

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going like that that can cause the path

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of the club to go out that way the the

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other way that you could look at it is

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not just looking at the path of the

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weight or the path of the club but

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looking at where my hands are along this

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path so let's say the club's going down

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towards the golf ball like this if I

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have a path that's pointed kind of

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outside the golf ball but then my hand

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path is coming way to the left then I'm

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probably not gonna shake it I'll

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probably be okay so it would be going

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like this but if the hand path is coming

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more around it's gonna prevent how far

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the club is swinging away from where I

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can get a lot of trouble is if it's

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swinging around like this and then my

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arms are straightening and they're going

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with the swing of the club and they're

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going out into the golf ball that can

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that's one of the more common causes for

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getting that shanked pattern to show up

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you know especially for golfers who used

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to be really steep and chicken winging

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and then they get a little bit flat and

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better-armed extension time so the

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question from Ryan is basically we have

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two things either the hands are going

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too much out or the overall path of the

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club is tilted too much in out which do

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you go at first I would say that the

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majority of the time I'm gonna go at the

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hands going more out and I'm gonna try

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to get that by staying a little bit more

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centered in my weight distribution and

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working on the pivot on the way through

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so basically working on having continued

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body rotation and basically having the

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movement of the hips and the ribcage

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start to pull those hands a little bit

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more around I don't like the idea of

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just artificially using the arms to pull

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them more around into the left but if I

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can use my body turn to get them to go

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to the left it will prevent the club

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from flying too much into out the other

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option would be essentially trying to

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tilt the swing path a little bit more

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vertically because it's if it's pointed

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out a weight out to the outside of the

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golf ball

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that's an overly shallow position and

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requires more of that body turn on the

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way through so I break it down that's

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kind of the more the theory as far as

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how the club works so I break it down

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into a couple different simple body

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awareness things either your weight

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distribution is moving too much in

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towards your toes and that's causing

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your hands to get too far out so doing

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something as simple as putting an

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alignment stick like underneath the toes

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to make sure that you're saying more in

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the center of your feet that can have a

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strong enough influence or I'll use a

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pool noodle to make sure that the upper

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body and the head isn't really lunging

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in towards the golf ball the that would

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be kind of more looking at it from the

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body position orientation the second one

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will be looking at the arm timing and

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that's usually more of like a tempo

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drill and more of a sequence II drill so

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I may use like the shank gait just to

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make golfers a little bit more

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and then do something like hitting maybe

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single arm only trying to get the timing

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of the arm extension that happened a

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little bit after the golf ball as

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opposed to right before it I see a

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couple comments coming in from Ned

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Germany he had the shanks my fix was to

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flip it which is one of the common ways

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that you fix the shank because when you

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move start uh you know flipping the club

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back this way it's typically going to

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work away from the widest point he said

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I had I flipped it for 25 years and the

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Tigers helped stop flipping it I think I

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shanked it because I didn't realize the

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towhead to close past the heel I used to

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break driver shafts because I'd hit

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shots dead off the extreme inside of the

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heel so that gets to the that second

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kind of shank which would be more if

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you're coming in with the clubface open

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right so if it's swinging more in line

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with the center of the the mass of the

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club kind of like so that heel can

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really come in towards the golf ball and

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then even if you close it late because

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it was coming in it's gonna be further

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away so if the pivot stuff doesn't work

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and you're still hitting them off to the

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right then oftentimes what you'll have

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to do is you'll have to get a little bit

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more of that motorcycle timing and

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you'll have to get a little bit earlier

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face rotation whereas Ned is describing

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letting the toe pass the heel in order

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to square the face and basically move

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the hosel back where it's supposed to be

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so it's not contact techni golf ball too

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soon so before we get into some of the

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non shank and nip related questions

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let's go-oh let's transition to the yips

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unless there are any questions that come

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in more on the shanks if your shank in

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the ball watch your weight distribution

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watch your the timing your arm

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straightening and watch the rotation of

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the face it could show up in early

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extension being the weight distribution

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it could show up in getting like overly

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flat or overly shallow with the arm path

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where the clubface that's wide open

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but usually you know shanks don't

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shouldn't be something that you should

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be too afraid of because they're usually

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one of the easier patterns to solve once

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you break it down

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which brings us next to the Yip which

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the Yip is a little bit trickier so I

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was talking we hosted dr. Debbie Cruz

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and she had some good research with a

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guy from the Mayo Clinic I think or the

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Cleveland Clinic and he was talking

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about he he was doing a study where they

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can actually test you neurologically see

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if you're having a Yip basically to see

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if you're having focal dystonia and what

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they found was about seven percent of

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the people who were they were testing

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who claimed to have the yips actually

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had this neurological input so what most

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people have the vast majority so let's

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say 93% of golfers who think that they

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have the yips have more of a anxiety

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bill fear pattern around a shot because

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in order for it to be a true Yip in

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order for it to be focal dystonia

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it is situation independent which means

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if I have you in the most relaxed state

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if I have you in your living room you

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know nobody watching just making a

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little putting motion or chipping motion

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because those are the two most common

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times that the it shows up it should

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show up just as frequently with no

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pressure and no you know nothing on the

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line no one watching no anxiety as if

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you had pressure on you if it's more a

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result of I get extra tension because I

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get nervous that is usually more a

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result of a kind of let's say a a

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balance or an imbalance and steep

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shallows and face closing so basically

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your face and path relationship are

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fragile enough that if you're off by a

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little bit you have a really bad mess

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commonly with putting that would be I'm

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either the cut the putter face is

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getting left open or the path of the

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club is coming way outside in would be

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the most the two most common that I've

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seen and so what ends up happening is

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the Yip either the club face is open and

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the yep closes it where the putter path

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is going to the left and the yep kind of

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straightens out the path but because of

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the anxiety because of the tension in

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the forearms it gets overdone and so it

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it looks like a flinch and it produces

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really dramatic misses really bad you

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know two-way or contact misses like it's

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it's unpredictable so I've had what's uh

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the the question that Ryan asked was

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about the Yip do you have to do a really

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dramatic change because some people will

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say if you got the yips you got a you

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know switch the left-handed or close

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your eyes or change grips if it's truly

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focal dystonia absolutely getting as far

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away from that motor pattern as possible

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is the easiest way to correct it if it's

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more of this anxiety built for your

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pattern sometimes those big changes work

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because it makes it different enough

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especially if that big change helps it

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out so I'll give you an example on one

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where that big change could potentially

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like help balance things out better like

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let's say you had the chipping yips and

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that was coming because you were overly

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shallow and you know tilting behind the

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golf ball and then you had to kind of

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flip in order to quickly move the bottom

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of swing forward well some golfers have

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done well with getting more of a cross

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hand well get putting that left hand low

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helps level out the shoulders which adds

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a little bit more steepness which moves

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the bottom of the swing forward which

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helps prevent your steep shallow balance

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or

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helps improve your steep shallow balance

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so if you're having the chip yips

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which I would say I've had more people

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come to me with the what they thought

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were the chipping yips then the putting

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nips and typically with the chipping

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nips I can almost predict what's gonna

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be going on

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typically the upper body is in the lower

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the upper body is well behind the lower

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body so it's got a fair amount of side

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bend and access till usually the head is

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even behind the golf ball and then

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because the body is in an overly shallow

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position tilted way behind they're gonna

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drag the handle in order to move the low

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point forward that takes away bounce so

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they get kind of these chunk shots when

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they're scared of that chunk shot they

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pull in but because they were so shallow

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they tend to blade it so typically what

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will happen with chip yips is you have

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to get the posture a little bit more

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vertical so shoulders saying much more

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level eliminate the downward movement

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that helps with the pole so get a little

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bit more of a cast pattern that'll

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improve the use of the balance the turf

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interaction and the low point control

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and then you can continue to work on

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getting let's say some body rotation or

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body pivot on the way through

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that one's usually a little bit easier

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than putting with putting I've only had

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a few cases of yips and let's say one of

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them was true neurological so we had to

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you know go to a long putter to take

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away what the trail cam was doing but

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frequently or the the other few times

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that I've been able to correct the yips

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usually what I'm looking for is when

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there's almost like gapping or floating

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where basically the grip is moving

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around in the hand and kind of creating

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almost like these little impulses where

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basically the the putter or the the

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putter is pushing against part of the

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hand created almost like a stretch

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shorten and then it gets slingshot

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so getting a little bit more I don't

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want to say even grip pressure because

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it's not that but getting a little bit

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better hand a grip contact so that it

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can control the face because that's the

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other thing is oftentimes golfers who

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have really good shaft lean really good

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lower body dynamics with their full

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swing are you still having the putter

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come in in more of a open position and

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then rotating it close with that

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motorcycle movement or shaft rotation

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but you can't do that in putting the in

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putting there so little loft that you

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have to square it more by having the

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putter pass you can't really square it

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by twisting the club so what they'll end

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up doing is they're coming in open and

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then at the last second they'll whip it

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closed with more of kind of that

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flinching movement so working on getting

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a little bit better handed grip contact

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and working on getting the the arc of

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the club or the path to square the face

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as opposed to just twisting the club

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that was usually work pretty well okay

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so covered the two major questions both

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from Ryan about the shank and the Yip

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and I've got a couple other questions

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that kind of came in as a result of

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these topics so if you have any any

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questions this is when you get me live I

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love to have some discussions so if you

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want to put them in the chat box I will

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look for them but a question from Steven

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yes do I need to adjust the amount of

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motorcycle for the longer clubs this is

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I'm going to say yes with a caveat so

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we'll talk through it a little bit with

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the with the longer clubs you will

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typically see earlier shaft rotation so

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when I look at 3d of let's say a 9-iron

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of a tour pro the clubface is typically

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not rotating a whole lot during that

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early part and then down during the

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release its closing a lot faster where

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with the driver with the

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your clubs it's definitely rotating a

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bit more early in transition so that's

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that motorcycle movement so that they've

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got the club face already in a good

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position so then they can more or less

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rotate and control the strike with the

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body pivot the example I give that where

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the the metaphor I use is with a longer

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Club has a whole lot more inertia so

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it's harder to mate when it when it's

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moving fast it's longer at extent

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essentially weighs more it's hard to

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make a rapid change to it it's almost as

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if I had like a 20 pound

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25 pound weight in my hand and I swung

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it back like I was gonna do a bowling

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action and I was going to throw it then

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at the last second I wanted to change

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directions right it would be would be

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really tough to have a dramatic change

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on the trajectory that 25 pound weight

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especially if I waited to change it

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until right at the very end that's more

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like the driver the iron is shorter and

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it doesn't have quite the same you know

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it doesn't have this the same amount of

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resistance so what I used the example of

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like if I had a 5 pound weight in my

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hand and if I had a 5 pound weight and I

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would get it swing yeah it's got some

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momentum going towards the target but

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then at the last second I could probably

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change it pretty quickly so if the if

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the club is coming in in an open

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position because you haven't done a lot

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of the motorcycle with a shorter Club it

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will be easier to kind of time that

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where with the with the the longer Club

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when you've got more resistance you've

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got to start getting it lined up sooner

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also the longer clubs are naturally

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flatter and the flatter something is the

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more it points the club face out to the

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right it opens the club face so you have

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to counterbalance that by getting the

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club face closed earlier because you

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can't use what you could do with an iron

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with an iron you can close the face by

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getting steep but with a driver because

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it's built on more of a flat lie that

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that

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wouldn't work with kind of the design of

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the club and it's got so little loft

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that if you squared it by getting steep

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you just kind of hit this warm burner so

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then you have to hold the face open it

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becomes a big problem okay I see a

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question coming in from Dawn seem to

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have the shanks lately

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oh good hopefully you got to hear that

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first part what causes early extension

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I'm assuming a lack of rotation okay so

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here's the hard thing with early

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extension but early extension does three

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things they're helpful for hitting a

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golf ball

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it helps shallow it out because

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oftentimes golfers get steep and when

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you back up you create a greater

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distance between your chest and the golf

00:21:54.650 --> 00:21:56.059
ball and it'll allow you to straighten

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your arms and the wider I get it the

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straighter I get my arms that helps

00:22:00.520 --> 00:22:02.540
shallow out the club because it's

00:22:02.540 --> 00:22:05.450
swinging on a circle that has a wider

00:22:05.450 --> 00:22:08.000
radius so it's got less of a change

00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:09.440
direction and it's lower than the ground

00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.260
coming into it therefore it is more

00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:14.240
shallow the other thing it helps do is

00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.370
it helps square the club face so early

00:22:16.370 --> 00:22:19.490
extension by getting the arm to

00:22:19.490 --> 00:22:22.850
straighten will get the club to twist

00:22:22.850 --> 00:22:27.429
close so oftentimes golfers who early

00:22:27.429 --> 00:22:31.010
extension or who struggle with early

00:22:31.010 --> 00:22:32.420
extension will come in with the clubface

00:22:32.420 --> 00:22:34.640
open and they'll use that late early

00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.640
extension to get the club face to shut

00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.760
so the hard thing is golfers who are

00:22:40.760 --> 00:22:42.220
struggling with early extension

00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:44.929
oftentimes have to feel that rotation of

00:22:44.929 --> 00:22:48.410
the club but they often struggle with

00:22:48.410 --> 00:22:50.300
hooking it because they let the club

00:22:50.300 --> 00:22:54.260
pass so if you're shanking with the

00:22:54.260 --> 00:22:56.900
early extension check to see like look

00:22:56.900 --> 00:23:00.320
on video and see if the club is well

00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:02.630
open at shaft parallel if that's the

00:23:02.630 --> 00:23:04.190
case then you probably need to get more

00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:07.100
shaft rotation in order to help avoid

00:23:07.100 --> 00:23:10.820
the early extension otherwise it could

00:23:10.820 --> 00:23:12.130
be

00:23:12.130 --> 00:23:15.070
something as simple as yes working on a

00:23:15.070 --> 00:23:17.020
good follow-through position working on

00:23:17.020 --> 00:23:18.429
a position where you have more body

00:23:18.429 --> 00:23:21.370
rotation when the shaft is parallel and

00:23:21.370 --> 00:23:23.950
the follow-through because if you if you

00:23:23.950 --> 00:23:26.230
tend to stall your body with that early

00:23:26.230 --> 00:23:28.030
extension so it stays facing the golf

00:23:28.030 --> 00:23:30.970
ball that'll get the path and the hand

00:23:30.970 --> 00:23:33.730
path both going out towards the target

00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:36.370
line and that combination is gonna move

00:23:36.370 --> 00:23:42.299
the hosel out there 999 times set at 10

00:23:42.299 --> 00:23:45.190
and so that actually transitions well

00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:48.789
into a question I had from Sean one of

00:23:48.789 --> 00:23:50.830
the members of the site he was asking

00:23:50.830 --> 00:23:52.570
about early extension he said his early

00:23:52.570 --> 00:23:57.340
extension went away from some of his his

00:23:57.340 --> 00:24:00.400
work here with a few of our drills but

00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.309
now he's worried that his legs are bent

00:24:03.309 --> 00:24:07.450
at impact so he's he's been able to get

00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:11.380
his chest to be more down but now this

00:24:11.380 --> 00:24:13.210
way it's been able to get his chest more

00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:15.220
down but now coming in the impact he has

00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:17.169
a little bit more of kind of that soft

00:24:17.169 --> 00:24:19.809
Bend look where he used to have those

00:24:19.809 --> 00:24:21.220
like straightening but his upper value

00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:22.000
would go with it

00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.480
oh that's usually a sign that you're

00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.090
you're stabilizing and getting the

00:24:28.090 --> 00:24:31.510
pressure from more of the quad going so

00:24:31.510 --> 00:24:32.860
the pressure through that lead foot

00:24:32.860 --> 00:24:35.190
going more into the quad as opposed to

00:24:35.190 --> 00:24:40.919
into the glute that by itself is not a

00:24:40.919 --> 00:24:47.350
dramatic problem I would say that it's

00:24:47.350 --> 00:24:49.600
something to monitor so it depends how

00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:53.080
long you've been like working on your

00:24:53.080 --> 00:24:56.409
chest pain now I never like to move on

00:24:56.409 --> 00:24:58.360
too quickly I want you to let the

00:24:58.360 --> 00:24:59.890
pattern kind of organize and gel a

00:24:59.890 --> 00:25:03.130
little bit so if you've been once I just

00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:07.659
recently improving your chest a noun you

00:25:07.659 --> 00:25:08.799
should probably work on that and not

00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.440
really worry too much about the lead leg

00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.510
buckling on the way through or bending

00:25:13.510 --> 00:25:15.909
on the way through that being said that

00:25:15.909 --> 00:25:17.710
lead leg bending on the way through

00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:19.260
long-term is gonna

00:25:19.260 --> 00:25:21.720
to cause more of a steep angle of attack

00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.990
so getting some better bracing can help

00:25:24.990 --> 00:25:28.440
eliminate maybe some poles and some pole

00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.960
hooks and would help eliminate some de

00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.370
contact so by getting that bracing

00:25:34.370 --> 00:25:36.720
that'll tend to move the hand path a

00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.020
little bit more around and that'll tend

00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:41.480
to create a little bit more of

00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.550
shallowness from side Bend and that

00:25:44.550 --> 00:25:46.890
could improve the miss pattern

00:25:46.890 --> 00:25:49.140
especially where I'd be looking would be

00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:52.050
more like the fairway woods or long

00:25:52.050 --> 00:25:55.860
irons if you still playing okay thoughts

00:25:55.860 --> 00:25:57.750
on training aids specifically the

00:25:57.750 --> 00:26:00.420
motorcycle movement and the device like

00:26:00.420 --> 00:26:04.800
the hanger I so will probably do another

00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:07.620
one on stages of learning stages of

00:26:07.620 --> 00:26:10.280
creating awareness I like training aids

00:26:10.280 --> 00:26:13.260
but I like them only for a very short

00:26:13.260 --> 00:26:15.960
amount of time usually at the beginning

00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.800
of getting used to a new pattern so the

00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:21.660
problem with the training aid is they're

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.060
usually somewhat expensive and you buy

00:26:24.060 --> 00:26:25.620
it and you feel like you have to use it

00:26:25.620 --> 00:26:28.920
a lot in order to you know justify the

00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:30.990
fact that you bought it where you

00:26:30.990 --> 00:26:33.360
usually only want to use it for let's

00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:36.300
say five to ten minutes and then put it

00:26:36.300 --> 00:26:38.220
away for a while and try to take what

00:26:38.220 --> 00:26:39.960
you felt and what you experienced and

00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:44.430
then try to recreate it without the

00:26:44.430 --> 00:26:47.910
benefit of the training 8o because I'll

00:26:47.910 --> 00:26:49.980
I'll do another video on it at some

00:26:49.980 --> 00:26:51.390
point but there's basically four stages

00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:55.710
to building awareness there's using an

00:26:55.710 --> 00:26:58.920
external reference they call

00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:00.420
transcendental reference so let's say

00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:02.280
let's say I'm working on posture because

00:27:02.280 --> 00:27:04.770
that's a really easy one so let's say

00:27:04.770 --> 00:27:06.810
I've got a stick or a wall behind me and

00:27:06.810 --> 00:27:08.850
I get my back flat up against the wall

00:27:08.850 --> 00:27:11.130
that's I know that the wall is fixed so

00:27:11.130 --> 00:27:13.050
my brains gonna buy into it it's not

00:27:13.050 --> 00:27:14.850
gonna argue that the wall is crooked so

00:27:14.850 --> 00:27:17.040
it knows that that's straight so there I

00:27:17.040 --> 00:27:20.790
can maybe get straight posture but with

00:27:20.790 --> 00:27:24.330
this fixed external reference the next

00:27:24.330 --> 00:27:26.820
stage would be using

00:27:26.820 --> 00:27:29.380
like outside scepter so basically using

00:27:29.380 --> 00:27:33.059
like my eyes or someone touching me so

00:27:33.059 --> 00:27:35.919
that's where training aids fit in there

00:27:35.919 --> 00:27:37.299
in one of these first two early

00:27:37.299 --> 00:27:39.700
categories so like let's say I had a

00:27:39.700 --> 00:27:41.980
mirror or a camera on me and so I was

00:27:41.980 --> 00:27:43.809
sitting there I'm like well I man I feel

00:27:43.809 --> 00:27:46.210
straight but I can see on the video that

00:27:46.210 --> 00:27:48.700
I'm not straight so I correct it that

00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:50.649
would be stage 2 where it's instantly

00:27:50.649 --> 00:27:55.299
I'm getting a visual receptor or feel

00:27:55.299 --> 00:27:59.289
receptor basically I'm able to see or

00:27:59.289 --> 00:28:01.690
feel where I'm wrong but I don't have an

00:28:01.690 --> 00:28:03.840
external reference that I can rely on

00:28:03.840 --> 00:28:07.570
the next stage would be just using my

00:28:07.570 --> 00:28:09.700
imagination so that would be more like

00:28:09.700 --> 00:28:12.850
okay I feel straight but someone just

00:28:12.850 --> 00:28:15.789
told me that I'm not straight he didn't

00:28:15.789 --> 00:28:18.640
tell me if I'm not straight this way or

00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:19.990
I'm not straight this way I have to

00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:25.149
figure it out and then the last stage

00:28:25.149 --> 00:28:28.480
would be let's say I could control it

00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:32.020
when someone told me you know they say

00:28:32.020 --> 00:28:34.450
no I'm not straight and I I fixed my

00:28:34.450 --> 00:28:36.669
posture the next stage would be fixing

00:28:36.669 --> 00:28:39.010
my posture and doing something else so

00:28:39.010 --> 00:28:42.760
it's like come you know complex movement

00:28:42.760 --> 00:28:46.059
so now I'm doing I'm fixing my posture

00:28:46.059 --> 00:28:48.909
and I'm running forward and running side

00:28:48.909 --> 00:28:50.080
to side like I have to do all these

00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:51.669
other things while keeping my posture

00:28:51.669 --> 00:28:53.409
the hard thing is that the golf swing

00:28:53.409 --> 00:28:55.990
really fits into that third category

00:28:55.990 --> 00:28:57.940
because you have to do a couple things

00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:00.789
at once so if you use the training aid

00:29:00.789 --> 00:29:02.590
to say work on the motorcycle that's

00:29:02.590 --> 00:29:04.750
good for stage 1 training but then you

00:29:04.750 --> 00:29:07.360
need to progress through to stage 2

00:29:07.360 --> 00:29:09.580
stage 3 stage 4 before it's really going

00:29:09.580 --> 00:29:11.320
to show up on the golf course so what

00:29:11.320 --> 00:29:13.360
can happen is you get a you do a

00:29:13.360 --> 00:29:15.610
training aid you get better results with

00:29:15.610 --> 00:29:17.830
your practice but it you haven't walked

00:29:17.830 --> 00:29:20.529
through the progress of how to train the

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:23.440
brain for the complex model it's going

00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.240
to need on the course so then you hit

00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.250
work shots on the course compared to

00:29:27.250 --> 00:29:29.049
practice and that creates a frustration

00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:31.049
yet

00:29:31.049 --> 00:29:34.000
that's my only criticism with training

00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.860
it says you have to understand what

00:29:35.860 --> 00:29:38.040
they're good at and where they

00:29:38.040 --> 00:29:41.810
or created okay

00:29:41.810 --> 00:29:45.780
questioning or comment in from out of

00:29:45.780 --> 00:29:49.050
nowhere axis and spine till are very

00:29:49.050 --> 00:29:51.600
unnatural move through the ball just go

00:29:51.600 --> 00:29:53.820
with it and work on clearing the hips

00:29:53.820 --> 00:29:57.300
and early extension will clear up so I

00:29:57.300 --> 00:29:59.130
always point out that you you know

00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:01.140
hitting the wall solidly is a balance of

00:30:01.140 --> 00:30:04.140
your steeps and shallows and rotation is

00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:05.880
a steep inner so if you're already steep

00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.880
and that early extension is one of your

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:11.360
main ways of shallowing it then if you

00:30:11.360 --> 00:30:13.950
eliminate early extension that makes it

00:30:13.950 --> 00:30:15.630
steeper and if you add rotation that

00:30:15.630 --> 00:30:17.640
makes it steeper so you've got to add

00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.560
something a shallow somewhere else it's

00:30:19.560 --> 00:30:21.390
either gonna be access tilt or something

00:30:21.390 --> 00:30:22.410
with the arms

00:30:22.410 --> 00:30:25.050
most Tour Pros do it more with the axis

00:30:25.050 --> 00:30:29.370
though okay Ben Hogan blades 55 years

00:30:29.370 --> 00:30:31.650
old Champions Tour beside that video

00:30:31.650 --> 00:30:34.500
added nine yards carry in seven times 17

00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:36.570
yards overall to my drives thank you

00:30:36.570 --> 00:30:39.660
you're very welcome I can't tell you how

00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:44.760
often I hear golfers come in when

00:30:44.760 --> 00:30:46.290
they're struggling with their driver and

00:30:46.290 --> 00:30:48.930
they're really trying to get their

00:30:48.930 --> 00:30:51.030
weight in their upper body on top of

00:30:51.030 --> 00:30:52.860
that front leg you know kind of that old

00:30:52.860 --> 00:30:55.650
Jimmy Ballard style of just or you know

00:30:55.650 --> 00:30:58.470
finishing in a vertical posture towards

00:30:58.470 --> 00:31:02.420
the golf ball so I'm happy to to help

00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:06.660
support the the hang back or getting a

00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:08.250
little bit better line of pressure where

00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:09.660
your upper body is behind your lower

00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:12.510
body behind your foot to balance out the

00:31:12.510 --> 00:31:13.800
pole the club and create a little more

00:31:13.800 --> 00:31:16.530
shallow angle attack I see improvements

00:31:16.530 --> 00:31:19.620
like that 20 yards nine yards carry in

00:31:19.620 --> 00:31:23.010
pretty quickly especially for fifty

00:31:23.010 --> 00:31:25.290
five-year-olds pretty good job okay

00:31:25.290 --> 00:31:26.970
out of nowhere do you think aiming one

00:31:26.970 --> 00:31:29.460
fin one inch in front of the ball helps

00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:31.550
with wall first contact yes especially

00:31:31.550 --> 00:31:35.490
especially for some golfers are more

00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:38.760
visual dominant than others I'm I

00:31:38.760 --> 00:31:41.120
personally am more field dominant so I

00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:45.180
almost lose visual awareness over the

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:46.500
wall I kind of see it in my peripheral

00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:48.510
I'm not really overly focused but I've

00:31:48.510 --> 00:31:51.139
had a lot of guys who are very

00:31:51.139 --> 00:31:56.240
and especially at first focusing a

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:57.799
little bit in front of the golf ball can

00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.929
be helpful what I usually do is I'll do

00:31:59.929 --> 00:32:01.549
something simple like the line drill and

00:32:01.549 --> 00:32:03.590
figure out what do you have to think

00:32:03.590 --> 00:32:05.600
about in order if you get the club to

00:32:05.600 --> 00:32:07.190
bottom out a little bit in front of golf

00:32:07.190 --> 00:32:09.320
ball and for many of them they'll just

00:32:09.320 --> 00:32:11.990
say well I looked there and then when

00:32:11.990 --> 00:32:13.070
they get to the golf ball I say well

00:32:13.070 --> 00:32:13.850
where were you looking

00:32:13.850 --> 00:32:15.860
and they'll say the back of the wall so

00:32:15.860 --> 00:32:17.480
I'll say okay wolf when you were hitting

00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:19.190
the ground where we wanted you were

00:32:19.190 --> 00:32:22.730
looking here and or bring my hand out so

00:32:22.730 --> 00:32:23.809
when we were hitting the ground where we

00:32:23.809 --> 00:32:25.730
wanted you we're looking here and then

00:32:25.730 --> 00:32:27.379
you went to hit a golf ball and you

00:32:27.379 --> 00:32:30.980
moved your focus to there so looking one

00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:32.330
inch in front of the golf ball can be

00:32:32.330 --> 00:32:33.679
very helpful

00:32:33.679 --> 00:32:35.809
what well you have to be careful with is

00:32:35.809 --> 00:32:38.330
some golfers that look more one inch in

00:32:38.330 --> 00:32:39.889
front of the golf ball tend to get a

00:32:39.889 --> 00:32:41.539
little bit more of a lunge with their

00:32:41.539 --> 00:32:42.889
upper body to move the bottom of swing

00:32:42.889 --> 00:32:46.309
forward so if you do that and let's say

00:32:46.309 --> 00:32:49.399
you're hitting either deeper divots or

00:32:49.399 --> 00:32:53.600
you're hitting kind of YP cuts then make

00:32:53.600 --> 00:32:56.090
sure that you're not getting your look

00:32:56.090 --> 00:32:59.559
ahead of the golf ball by by lunging

00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.330
that would be my only caution with that

00:33:02.330 --> 00:33:04.820
Ned your website and new book are

00:33:04.820 --> 00:33:07.249
fantastic and each chance you might add

00:33:07.249 --> 00:33:09.230
a strength and flexibility portion to

00:33:09.230 --> 00:33:10.690
your website

00:33:10.690 --> 00:33:14.059
any chance I would say yes there is a

00:33:14.059 --> 00:33:14.840
chance

00:33:14.840 --> 00:33:17.899
I've been studying under gya for the

00:33:17.899 --> 00:33:21.619
last few years and I've I've developed a

00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:24.289
whole new appreciation for how detailed

00:33:24.289 --> 00:33:28.369
it is to do proper stretching to the

00:33:28.369 --> 00:33:32.539
point where it is I'd say it's almost

00:33:32.539 --> 00:33:36.490
impossible to get someone to stretch

00:33:36.490 --> 00:33:40.970
perfectly through website and I kind of

00:33:40.970 --> 00:33:43.730
am a little bit of a unless I can do it

00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:45.230
right I don't want to try it at all so

00:33:45.230 --> 00:33:47.450
I'm a little hesitant with that but I'll

00:33:47.450 --> 00:33:49.369
see what I'll see what I can come up

00:33:49.369 --> 00:33:52.070
with over over this next you know six

00:33:52.070 --> 00:33:55.580
eight months or so because I know that

00:33:55.580 --> 00:33:57.799
it's a it is an important part I'm you

00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.240
know I was just put on the Gulf Digest

00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.490
top fitness trainer list I do believe in

00:34:06.490 --> 00:34:09.950
strength and flexibility as part of

00:34:09.950 --> 00:34:15.919
training for golf but it's tricky to do

00:34:15.919 --> 00:34:17.629
through online it's a lot easier to get

00:34:17.629 --> 00:34:19.820
people to improve their swings online

00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:25.010
than it is to stretch properly all right

00:34:25.010 --> 00:34:27.560
Kevin golf at what stage in the

00:34:27.560 --> 00:34:30.350
downswing do you like to see side tilt

00:34:30.350 --> 00:34:35.710
kick in and where does it maximize the

00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:39.730
so the side tilt well usually there's a

00:34:39.730 --> 00:34:42.679
there's a reason why I kind of break the

00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.960
swing into transition and then release

00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.830
at the end of transition so somewhere

00:34:48.830 --> 00:34:51.290
kind of around here is usually when

00:34:51.290 --> 00:34:54.619
shoulders are level pelvis is square and

00:34:54.619 --> 00:34:56.419
I've reached as much flexion as I'm

00:34:56.419 --> 00:34:58.970
going to go into so from here I'm

00:34:58.970 --> 00:35:00.850
basically gonna go into side Bend

00:35:00.850 --> 00:35:03.410
extension as I continue rotating so the

00:35:03.410 --> 00:35:06.440
side Bend really starts to kick in after

00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:11.960
that initial movement there so after

00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:13.730
that little left tilt gets that pressure

00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:15.830
it'll start going into side Bend and it

00:35:15.830 --> 00:35:18.280
will reach its maximum usually by

00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.900
follow-through position so when the when

00:35:20.900 --> 00:35:23.000
the shaft is roughly parallel in the

00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:24.590
follow-through that's when most golfers

00:35:24.590 --> 00:35:29.510
will reach their maximum side then good

00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:31.640
question also love the book wish there

00:35:31.640 --> 00:35:34.270
was one for instructors

00:35:34.270 --> 00:35:38.200
stay tuned we're working on stuff okay

00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:42.980
motox Ben Myers right arm is longer than

00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:46.910
left do two surgeries do you on what

00:35:46.910 --> 00:35:50.810
would you help me at impact all right so

00:35:50.810 --> 00:35:55.670
I just had a student who flew in here

00:35:55.670 --> 00:35:58.460
who had a similar situation where he

00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:00.619
broke his radius and through the healing

00:36:00.619 --> 00:36:02.840
process his right arm was maybe about

00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.190
this much shorter we did a lot of right

00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:09.500
arm training because what was happening

00:36:09.500 --> 00:36:13.040
was the the left arm was bending a

00:36:13.040 --> 00:36:14.450
little bit

00:36:14.450 --> 00:36:16.770
basically as a protection from getting

00:36:16.770 --> 00:36:18.870
pulled out by the right arm so we had a

00:36:18.870 --> 00:36:22.020
little bit of an extra scoop or flip to

00:36:22.020 --> 00:36:23.940
it we started with the right arm

00:36:23.940 --> 00:36:27.570
training and then we went into left

00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:30.020
wrist training but we were a little bit

00:36:30.020 --> 00:36:34.950
less less picky on doing the left arm

00:36:34.950 --> 00:36:39.960
stuff perfectly so getting getting more

00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.740
of the trail arm trail shoulder working

00:36:43.740 --> 00:36:47.660
perfectly was a big part of the pattern

00:36:47.660 --> 00:36:51.120
so I would definitely look at the single

00:36:51.120 --> 00:36:55.110
arm drills the the right arm only the

00:36:55.110 --> 00:36:56.760
right arm shop put whatever you need to

00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:00.990
do to get that right arm working I want

00:37:00.990 --> 00:37:06.060
to say cleanly but I've found in the

00:37:06.060 --> 00:37:08.280
past that it's easier to train the good

00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.900
arm than to struggle too much with the

00:37:12.900 --> 00:37:14.130
bad arm you basically just make sure

00:37:14.130 --> 00:37:15.750
have to make sure that the bad arm is

00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:19.140
not so bad that it messes up with the

00:37:19.140 --> 00:37:26.060
good arms trying to do so it's not a

00:37:26.060 --> 00:37:28.440
it's gonna change a little bit of a look

00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.060
you'll probably have more of a look of

00:37:30.060 --> 00:37:33.690
almost like a Chad Campbell or even say

00:37:33.690 --> 00:37:35.550
a Jordan speith where the right arm gets

00:37:35.550 --> 00:37:37.320
fully extended that would be one of my

00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.450
big follow-through keys more so than the

00:37:39.450 --> 00:37:41.190
left arm being perfect just working on

00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:43.470
making sure that left wrist isn't set

00:37:43.470 --> 00:37:47.480
isn't sabotaging the right arm extension

00:37:48.650 --> 00:37:53.390
ok I got one more question coming in

00:37:53.390 --> 00:37:57.450
we've got Ben Hogan blades what is the

00:37:57.450 --> 00:37:59.370
best thing to work on indoors during the

00:37:59.370 --> 00:38:03.090
winter so if what I usually like to work

00:38:03.090 --> 00:38:05.490
on in the winter is the stuff that is

00:38:05.490 --> 00:38:09.000
the hardest to do during the season and

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.070
that's a little bit case-by-case

00:38:11.070 --> 00:38:13.110
so I usually break golfers into two

00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:15.030
categories you're either really good

00:38:15.030 --> 00:38:16.579
with your body

00:38:16.579 --> 00:38:18.619
kind of unaware of your hands or you're

00:38:18.619 --> 00:38:20.269
really good with your hands and kind of

00:38:20.269 --> 00:38:22.130
unaware of your body whichever one

00:38:22.130 --> 00:38:25.400
you're unaware of I usually train harder

00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.449
in the offseason and because you can do

00:38:29.449 --> 00:38:31.880
a lot of good stuff indoors so that's

00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.640
why I have drills on the website on

00:38:33.640 --> 00:38:36.259
isolating the body pivots isolating how

00:38:36.259 --> 00:38:39.170
the legs work or isolating what the arms

00:38:39.170 --> 00:38:42.640
do the other thing that you can work on

00:38:42.640 --> 00:38:46.009
indoors during the offseason is you can

00:38:46.009 --> 00:38:48.289
really work on your fitness if you've

00:38:48.289 --> 00:38:50.689
got somebody in your area who's really

00:38:50.689 --> 00:38:52.130
good and can teach you how to stretch

00:38:52.130 --> 00:38:53.449
properly

00:38:53.449 --> 00:38:55.819
I love el Della's they're they're great

00:38:55.819 --> 00:38:58.189
for spine health I've been studying them

00:38:58.189 --> 00:39:00.199
the last few years and have a really

00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.539
good success with that especially for

00:39:02.539 --> 00:39:05.569
golfers who have l5 s1 back pain stuff

00:39:05.569 --> 00:39:08.989
so that's good things to do during the

00:39:08.989 --> 00:39:13.929
winter the the things that I think are

00:39:13.929 --> 00:39:17.859
harder to work on during the winter I

00:39:17.859 --> 00:39:20.539
think it's harder to work on a lot of

00:39:20.539 --> 00:39:22.609
like the shot shaping skills like the

00:39:22.609 --> 00:39:25.119
fine-tuning trajectory control

00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.339
especially you know if you're working

00:39:28.339 --> 00:39:29.779
indoors obviously you don't have any of

00:39:29.779 --> 00:39:32.599
that what usually ends up happening is

00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.479
when you're practicing indoors your feet

00:39:35.479 --> 00:39:38.359
have a much better connection to the

00:39:38.359 --> 00:39:41.329
ground than when you're on grass it's

00:39:41.329 --> 00:39:43.089
almost like the difference between doing

00:39:43.089 --> 00:39:45.380
beach volleyball versus indoor

00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:48.049
volleyball right so what frequently

00:39:48.049 --> 00:39:49.939
happens is if you do a ton of indoor

00:39:49.939 --> 00:39:53.420
practice and then you go out onto the

00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:55.640
course and the grass is especially this

00:39:55.640 --> 00:39:56.989
time of year it's usually a little bit

00:39:56.989 --> 00:39:59.660
soggy err because of you know the other

00:39:59.660 --> 00:40:04.309
the melted snow or or whatever you'll

00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:06.949
tend to not be able to use your pivot

00:40:06.949 --> 00:40:08.749
quite as well which tends to affect low

00:40:08.749 --> 00:40:12.709
point so I tend to work on kind of the

00:40:12.709 --> 00:40:14.749
the bigger more challenging skills

00:40:14.749 --> 00:40:16.999
during the winter knowing that we're

00:40:16.999 --> 00:40:18.949
gonna have a little bit of sacrifice

00:40:18.949 --> 00:40:23.509
probably in in scoring all right so

00:40:23.509 --> 00:40:25.640
you're so you like to practice impact

00:40:25.640 --> 00:40:29.240
drills but everyone is lacking in

00:40:29.240 --> 00:40:32.240
different areas yeah I mean the the golf

00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:35.170
swing is definitely let's say

00:40:35.170 --> 00:40:37.660
complicated to say the least and so

00:40:37.660 --> 00:40:41.240
understanding your keys is really

00:40:41.240 --> 00:40:44.900
important so impact drills low point

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drills those can be pretty good but

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during the winter I think is the best

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time to get a little bit more technical

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during the season I like to get I like

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to spend a little bit more time with

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skill building less so than less so then

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kind of your fine motor your precision

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stuff okay David Howell one of my old

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Denver students it's gonna be ten

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degrees high at broken tea this weekend

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yeah here in California I mean it was

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only it only it got up to like 65 you

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can see I'm in a sweater so it's it's

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pretty tough out here too we we can both

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we're both feeling the the winter pain

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okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap this up

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I appreciate any questions if you want

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to email questions I can Star Trek

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creating a list for the next one of

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these that I'll do they seem to be seem

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to be fun and well-received and it gives

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me a good chance to interact with some

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of you who I don't get to see personally

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if you haven't checked out either the

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website or the book always reference

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this is the the book that's available on

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Amazon Socktober swingin if you read it

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and like it I would really appreciate

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any reviews that you can give those

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there's helped me figure out what we

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need to do better for the next version

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and then we're constantly updating you

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know creating new video is based on your

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questions and we got some fun stuff

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coming in the in the mix for 2018 so

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thank you all for for your support and

00:42:20.869 --> 00:42:23.150
for joining me on this question and

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answer please send me any any feedback

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and any other questions that you have

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it'll help us get ready for next time

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until then go practice with a purpose

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and as always happy golfing

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