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Shallow Timeline - What Shallows At What Points In The Downswing

Reading the feedback from a shot is a good skill for longterm development. In this video, we discuss the different times that you might start creeping toward too shallow a path and the movements that would take you there. But becoming more focused on the timing of when the swing issue creeps in, you'll have a good understanding of what is causing it and ultimately what you have to change to fix it.

Tags: Not Enough Distance, Transition, Member Question, Intermediate

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This video is the steep and shallow flow chart, the shallow version.

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So we're going to go through the downswing and look at the path of the club.

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Now in the steep and shallow flow chart or the steep and shallow overview video,

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I show you that the major movements that are going to cause shallow are going to be

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right rotation of the arms, so kind of going like that.

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Lifting the arms, so the arms working more this way to end the shallow out.

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Right side bend and extension and also right rotation or having because it's a downswing

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movement less left rotation.

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So the big ones are going to be right side bend and extension and right rotation of the

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arms kind of like that.

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So now we're going to break the downswing into three distinct phases.

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The middle phase is kind of this little blend between the transition and the release,

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but we're going to look at the transition.

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We're going to look at blending transition into release and then we're going to look

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at the release because you may get shallow in three different phases.

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So the top of the swing, if we get shallow in the transition phase, it's almost always

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going to be a power source issue, at least part of the program will have to resolve around

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how you're creating speed.

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So the common one would basically be from the top of the swing.

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If I go into right side bend and I'm kind of doing a back extension to pull this

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club down.

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It's early extension pattern and it'll look like that right off the bat and this club

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will tend to drop inside.

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But often what golfers will do is even if I'm going like that, they will use a steep

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arm movement to kind of balance it out so it's not too steep or too shallow there.

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But the most common one would be that right side bend too soon as opposed to regaining

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your flexion first and kind of waiting before going into that right side bend until

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during the release.

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The second phase would be blending that transition into the release and there's a couple

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different common patterns that start to get off there.

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If I haven't started the motorcycle and the club face is coming in an open position,

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I'll often start that early extension pattern so that I'm going to be able to pull back

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away to get that club face to slam shut down at the bottom.

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So it's usually if I'm getting shallow during this transition or during this blend between

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transition and release, I'm looking at the club face first and foremost.

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Then the last section would be looking at the release and just like the steep version,

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the release is going to tend to be how I'm organizing the club face which is going to look

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a lot at what the arms are doing.

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Now in this case, it's typically using the body to get the club face to line up so

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that I can get the club face to close.

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It would be very rare for the arms to just want to kind of stay shallow and underneath

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because a lot of the movements that are going to shallow the club way down there will also

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tend to open the club face so you would tend to struggle with way big blocks and push

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fades.

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So if everything looks pretty good here but then I start to get into a shallow movement

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there, it's typically going to be that right side bend lift and it's typically going to be

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the one that I actually forgot in the intro video or the intro of this video which would

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be the extension of the arms tends to shallow things out.

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So if I'm getting here and then I extend those arms, that will tend to give that look

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of the shallow which will also because the arms are extending too soon will tend to stall

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my body from rotate it.

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So instead of getting into this position and continued rotation and letting those arms

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extend a little bit later, if I get into a pretty good delivery position and then those

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arms just go straight from there, it will tend to cause my body to stall.

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So again, down the release we're looking more at the club face and how the arms are contributing

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to the overly shallow pattern.

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In transition we're looking more at the power sources and then in the middle we're looking

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at kind of a blend it could be either path it could be face.

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So if you're unsure if you have a shallow pattern where you're hitting more of kind of

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picky contacts, maybe even thin shots and shanks, if you're having more of the block hook

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combo you want to identify why and when you are starting to get shallow.

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If you have a hard time figuring it out you're welcome to submit a video and we can help

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guide you as to when you're getting shallow and what are some proper drills that might

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have a good chance of helping you fix it.

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