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Alright, in this presentation, we're going to talk about the release or the arm action

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of elite golfers.

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So this is a presentation that I gave for at the World Golf Fitness Summit back in October

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and I wanted to share it with our coaches here.

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So before we jump into the release, we've got to define what we're talking about when

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I say the release.

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So we're basically looking at this zone here from when the club is roughly vertical,

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somewhere between vertical and 45 and it actually goes usually all the way until about

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here.

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So we'll define why I chose those points here in a second.

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But we want to look at what is the release?

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What are the absolutes?

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What are my preferences?

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And then lastly, what are my favorite drills and why do I like those?

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So we didn't get through all of it in the world golf fitness Summit, but I'll make

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sure that I cover everything here, even if we cover it possibly a little bit quicker.

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Okay, so the release goes from this zone here, delivery position, to follow through position.

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You might be wondering why I chose those two positions.

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Why not, you know, one of the normal P numbers, so why not shaft vertical, why not shaft

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parallel and why not stop it at impact?

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So I choose those definitions for the release based on some of the data that I've seen.

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So around this point here is typically when the grip is reaching its maximum linear speed.

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You can see that right here.

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And that's typically when the lead arm is reaching its maximum rotational speed in the

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kinematic sequence.

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So basically when the front arm, this segment here is reaching its fastest speed and then

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it's going to transfer all that speed out to the club.

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Also, this is right around the zone where you're reaching the maximum ground force reaction.

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And I talked with a guy, a club editor who uses gears a lot, this is right around the same

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time when the shaft is reaching its max deflection point.

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So there's a number of these phenomena are events that make it seem like a really good

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time to start the release.

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And like prior to that, everything was loading up.

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And then from there, we're going to transfer as much of the energy as we can or release that

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stored energy in, hopefully into the golf ball.

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So I like to think of it as all this is building up to what's happening here, which is the

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transfering stage.

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So you build the power during transition or during the backswing and in transition.

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And then you transfer it during the release.

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So from here until somewhere around here.

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Now this is the arc width graph that I look at a lot.

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And when I'm thinking in my head about the release, the max arc width is kind of when

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the golfer is really reaching its the culmination or the end of all the energy going out.

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So the arc width is looking at the distance between the midhand point on the grip and

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the sternum.

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So it's basically looking at that width through there.

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So now the interesting thing is this is what an amateur golfer looks like, where typically

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they're reaching their arc width graph at or sometimes even before impact.

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And most pros have this arc width where it's reaching the widest point into the follow

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through and kind of has more of a gradual curve.

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So this is more of a rounded curve.

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This is more of a peak.

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Amateurs on average, I'd say, especially higher handicap are going to reach all those

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other points later.

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So they're reaching maximum speeds and forces later.

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And then they're going to reach their max arc width earlier.

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So there release really goes from somewhere around here down to impact where in the elite

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model or the twersoing I like to look at.

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They're reaching that max speed earlier.

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So they have more time to transfer it and they're reaching that max arc width later.

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So when I'm looking at a release, it doesn't necessarily like wear a pro is ending their

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release might not match up exactly with where an amateur would.

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So here's a few arc width examples.

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Basically arc width again is looking at the measurement between the grip and the sternum.

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So you'll see one piece take away, not a lot of change and then it starts to narrow as those

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arms bend as they get to the top of the swing.

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There's a slight increase or sorry decrease where basically it's getting closer.

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So one piece take away starts to decrease as it bends.

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Starts to decrease a little bit more and then it's going to widen all the way from there

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all the way until that point in the follow-through.

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Here's another pro.

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Again, one piece take away, narrowes, narrowes more in transition and then boom all of

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its released out to after impact.

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Now here's a couple higher handicap golfers.

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This one does have a little bit of a one piece take away but it's shorter.

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Reach is the maximum width before the top of the swing and then has more of a cast pattern.

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So you can see that this starts going up instead of down so we've got a cast pattern

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and then reaches its peak just before impact and then narrowes very quickly.

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So that would look like just before impact.

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It's the widest and then it starts coming in closely.

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This golfer would look like he had a big scoop in chicken wing.

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Here's another high handicap golfer.

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Less of a one piece take away, so more of an arm driven take away.

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Again reaches the max width near the top of the swing and then reaches that maximum peak.

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It's a little more rounded so this golfer is probably a little bit more consistent.

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Then the other one but still would have a scooping or chicken wing look and a narrowing

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right after impact.

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So now here are two different good player examples and this is a tour pro over here and

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then this is a college golfer.

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So you know a one or a plus or scratch golfer.

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So you can see it reaches a point at impact that's wider than where he started.

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So it is increasing through the downswing but it's a little bit more of a cast pattern

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and a little bit more of a kind of a scoop pattern.

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Not a huge chicken wing but a little bit more of that scoop pattern.

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So this golfer tends to struggle a little bit more off the tee compared to the classic

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kind of tour arc width pattern.

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This right here is my favorite graph because it's the most predictive for me.

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If you give me the arc width graph I know a lot about this golfer as a ball striker.

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Typically I have or I have yet to have someone who really broke the pattern basically

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who golfer who looked like this who said they were a crappy ball striker or a golfer

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who looked like this that said you know what I'm amazing.

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I'm a great ball striker.

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Whenever I have a really strong tendency like that I pay more attention.

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I don't see the same tendency with something like the kinematic sequence.

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Okay so now what allows a golfer to develop this solid arc width pattern?

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So basically what are we doing between that phase over there and that position there?

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So while this presentation is largely based on the risk I wanted to get a little bit

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into what the body does.

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So the rotational movement so the angular movements you've got side bend away from the target

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upper body starts to extend.

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Left leg starts to straighten and upper body to continue to rotate.

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So basically the upper body is going to start to side bend the opposite direction.

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It's going from its maximum flex to start going into extension.

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That left leg is starting starting starting to straighten and the body is continuing to rotate.

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So it kind of has a look of going through like that.

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The linear movements this is also the same point.

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So this point, this transition from transition to the release is where a lot of these graphs change.

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So there's a lot of events in phenomena happening at this maximum handle speed,

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maximum ground force, maximum lead arm rotation speed point.

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Is where the upper body starts moving away from the target kind of starts the

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bracing process and going more back that way.

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Lower body keeps going forward but it's starting to really stabilize.

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The lower body will raise one to two inches.

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The upper body kind of stays around the same height.

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So that's part of that bracing pattern.

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And then the upper body moves slightly away from the golf ball but it's very slight.

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So a little bit of extension away from the golf ball.

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All right, when we start getting into the arm motions, there's three things we want to think about.

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And you can really apply these three questions that any aspect of golf science, which is what is

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happening, why might it be happening and how do we train it?

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How do we teach someone to actually do it?

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So now that we're going to jump into the arm motions, we're going to start with the 3D graphs.

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Just to kind of get on the same page.

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And the first little exercise that I want you to do is the seated release.

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So hopefully you're sitting in a chair and then what I want you to do is without moving your body.

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So torso ribs, pelvis, if you're sitting, it's even easier.

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That doesn't move.

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Just show me what you think your arm should do between this point here and that point there.

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So I'll give you a second, think about it, try it a few times.

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If you're like most people, you either did this, where you kind of pulled it more across your body,

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or you went kind of that, where it's straightened more across your body, but in general, it typically

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goes across like so.

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If this is the widest point, the widest point is when the hands are in front of the chest.

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So question asked yourself first, did my hands pass the chest?

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If I think that my hands should pass the chest before I reach that point,

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then my release is probably early.

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So the seated release would be going more straight out in front.

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Just like this.

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Now, the other question asked yourself is did your arms go down more?

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That would be more like a wedge pattern, or did my arms actually lift?

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That would be more like a driver pattern.

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This is something to kind of think about because if you're seated,

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let's you know what you think your arms do compared to your chest.

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And I can tell you if you have a feeling of your hands passing your chest,

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there's no way you're going to get your body into that tour impact position

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like we were described in earlier.

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So these are more common kind of patterns where basically crosses the chest and reaches out versus

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staying in front of the chest and not quite passing.

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Kind of like that.

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Okay, so now looking at the wrist graphs, we're going to be able to

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investigate a little bit some of these key movements.

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When we look at this graph, we've got flexion extension going up and down like this.

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We've got radial and ulnar deviation, so hinge and unhinged, and then we've got supination

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pronation.

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First, we'll look at flexion extension of the left wrist.

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This is Steve Elkington and when it's negative, it's going into extension,

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when it's positive, it's going into flexion.

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So basically he's whoops.

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Okay, so basically he starts with about 25 degrees of left wrist extension.

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During the take away, he flexes it or he gets more towards flexion.

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Top of the swing, he extended, extended it, and then during the downswing, he goes from about 20

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or 30 degrees this way to about 10 degrees that way.

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Kind of like that.

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Now we'll look at pronation supination.

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So pronation supination, he's going to start somewhere over here, which is 30,

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roughly 34 degrees,

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supinated, so it's actually this way, but the reason it looks that way is because the shoulder is rotated

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internally like that.

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So he's 34 degrees and then he's going to rotate his arm during the backswing,

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you'll see right here, starts to want to steep and then it rotates even more right through there,

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and then from here to here, he covers about 130 degrees of supination like that.

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And you'll see that where it crosses impact, so impact is this black vertical line here,

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where it crosses impact is usually a little bit more pronated than where it was to start,

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but it's in the process of going through a lot of supination.

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Okay, and then lastly, we've got radial and older deviations, so looking at hinge and on hinge.

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Now it's calibrated based off of a ski position kind of like this, so it's not 100%

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calibrated to zero, like anatomical neutrals.

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It's usually going to air on calibration a little bit more towards a radial position,

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but so that would affect the height or the shift, but not the magnitudes and how the

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graph looks, that will be really consistent. So basically he's unhinged 50 degrees,

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kind of like this, and then he hinges it up to the top of the swing, you'll see that he doesn't increase

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it, so a lot of golfers are trying to really increase the hinge. Yes, a number of torpros do,

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but a lot of torpros who don't have a cast pattern don't increase that hinge. He's actually losing

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some of the angle and then he loses it and it reaches its peak after impact. So again,

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older is positive, radial is negative. So this is what it typically looks like when you see a

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risk graph. They throw them all on the same one, so down in the key, you'll see lead risk,

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older and radial deviation or flexion extension or rotation. So you can look at the colors there,

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hopefully they show it pretty well on the on the video. But you're looking at some of these same

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inflection points, you're looking at intransition, did it, supinate, or sorry, did it pronate before

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it supinate. With the radial you're looking at when did it start to go on hinge, with the flexion

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extension you're looking at the motorcycle movement is basically how much of the downswing,

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when did this start and when did it stop going into flexion. So somewhere right around impact is

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typically when golfers will start going out of flexion. All right, so now we've got Grant wait,

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another example. We can see he's got a different looking swing than Steve Elkington, but we can see

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some similar patterns here. So you've got the radial owner not really going into a big hinge during

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the downswing. It's pretty much saying the same. We've got the motorcycle movement happening before he

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gets to the top of the swing. So he's getting to the top of the swing. It's starting to flex and then it

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keeps flexing all the way into the downswing and then he loses it just a little bit earlier. But you can see

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it's about 30 degrees, 20 degrees somewhere in that zone more than where it was at start when he gets

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the impact. And then the rotation, you'll see the shallowing movement of the arm shallows,

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so the pronation there followed by a massive amount of supination. So he's again covering about

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120 degrees of supination, but he's reaching his maximum supination well after the golf ball is gone.

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Okay, now this would be an inefficient example or a higher handicap. So here you will see this

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call for did increase the hinge, but they still have a cast pattern because it shows up in

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another other cast graphs. The rotation, so the blue line, he has some pronation, but not much after the

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top of the backswing, it just all kind of slowly goes there. So that would look more like a steepening

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pattern like this as opposed to more of a shallowing pattern. Motorcycle, you'll see he extends the

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wrist, so he's actually opening the face down through there and then he motorcycle,

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some everyone will do some motorcycle, but you'll see he doesn't do very much, so it's only about

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10 degrees different at impact than where it was at setup and it never gets to flex given how he only

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had 29 degrees of extension to start, you'd expect him to get close to zero at as max.

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So this is the quick scan looking at those lead risk graphs. So when you're looking at the lead

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risk graphs, you're typically looking at the timing in the amount of a flexion or the motorcycle

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move, timing in amount of the supination or the arm shallowing in transition or the supination

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in the follow-through and how much pronated or supinated were they at impact? If I jump back,

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you'll see with the blue line, this golfer is pretty close to the same amount of rotation at

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impact that they were at setup. Compared that to Grant Wait or he's a little bit less or Steve

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Elkington who's even a little bit more, you'll typically see more pronated at impact with the

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longer clubs or with the driver compared to amateur. They typically are back to about the same

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position and then the last one is the timing of the owner or the unhinged and how much

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re-hinged in transition that relates to how much timing of the flexion you're going to be able to see.

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Okay so that's the lead risk now we're going to cover the trail risk. So same parameters, first

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one looking at Steve Elkington starts with about 15 degrees of extension. I forgot to put the

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little keys so I'll go through it again but if you look at the first part where I had them on there

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that can help you. So 15 degrees of extension so he's kind of like this and then during the backswing

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he extends it 40 or 50 degrees and then during transition it stays about the same and then during

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the downswing it increases another 10 15 degrees and then through impact so he started there he's

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more like this and impact about 20 or 30 degrees more extended but it's going this way

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through impact and it gets a little bit past zero. Proination supination so now we've got

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pronation on the bottom supination on the top so he's starting in a position that is about 45 degrees

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supination again that has to do with where the shoulder is pointing as he goes down so this is a

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tricky one we'll get into why some of the risk graphs or take some interpretation but this one you'll

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typically see it looks like it's steepens like this in transition because when it goes down it's

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pronating so the risk is basically going or the form is going this way during the whole backswing which

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would look like it's going to steepen like this but the shoulder is also rotating which shallot is

00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:58,000
it back out so typically this movement here is a sign of trail arm external rotation golfers you

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typically don't have that typically look like it goes more you know flying elbow or arm out that way

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and then you'll tend to see a lot of supination reaching its maximum peak pretty close to impact golfers

00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:19,000
who have more of a flip roll you'll tend to see the peak earlier than impact okay now we got radial

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and owner this is one of the trickier ones this is one of my favorite graphs to look at because

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it reveals one of the key movements it reveals the wipe from the risk perspective you can also

00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,000
get a wipe from the lead elbow but this is where you'll see the wipe from the risk perspective

00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:47,000
so basically he's got a certain amount of unhing increase is it to the top of the swing or close to it

00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:53,000
as he gets to the top he loses it a little bit loads it more in transition starts the unload

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and then re-hinge is it before he releases it in impact so

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when it's going down it's increasing right so he's increasing the hinge releases some increases

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more and then releases so he's increasing releasing some through there increasing through there

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in order to get the energy working more across his body and towards the target instead of down

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typically golfers who don't have that second peak where it looks just like a straight line

00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:32,000
you'll tend to see it release more straight behind the body kind of like this instead of

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getting in front of the body there so that's one of the ways to see the wipe movement

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if you put all three together you're looking at you'll see kind of these dips

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you're looking for the dips in the downswing with all of them so you're looking for the increased

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extension you're looking for the shallowing movement and you're looking for the wipe by looking at the

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trail rest so here's Steve Elkington again with similar or slightly different looking patterns but

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similar kind of things really big white movement there really big extension movement not quite as big

00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,000
of an arm shallowing movement from the trail arm he had more of it from the lead arm

00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:20,000
but you can see the overall pattern looks fairly similar this is you're now you're higher

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handicapped the guy who didn't have a very good arc with you'll see tiny little plateau but not

00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:32,000
really re increasing he reaches maximum extension well before the top of the swing so that's more

00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:39,000
of a cast pattern even though his left wrist went like this during the downswing same thing with his

00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:45,000
radial tiny little what not really a wipe you know this would look like it was more of a scoop

00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:53,000
behind his body and then again no real continued pronation it just starts superding right away and then

00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:59,000
it changes direction well before impact so this would look like steep and then roll on the way through

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okay so trail rest you're asking yourself the same question so timing of the wrist extension

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did it increase in the downswing timing of the amount of supination pronation did it pronator

00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,000
supinate in transition that's looking at arm shallowing and giving you an idea of what the

00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,000
shoulder did how early before impact did it stop supinating because that's a sign that

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the where the shoulder is and how the shoulder is working we'll talk about that here in a second

00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,000
timing of the owner or the unhing if there's a downswing re hinge there's a good chance he's got a solid

00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:40,000
white movement okay so summarizing all the arm movements the lead arm and trail arm are working a

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little bit across the body the lead arm is going to bend we didn't look at the lead elbow but

00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,000
we saw that the the the wrist we're going to unhing and straighten through impact

00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,000
the elbows move closer together through impact again we were focusing mostly on the wrist

00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:02,000
both arms supinate or work palm up during the downswing and both wrist will unhing and then

00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:09,000
maintain it past impact the other one that I put on there is they're both going to be about 20 to

00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:15,000
30 degrees more motorcycle we're rotated that way compared to where they were it set up

00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:23,000
kind of looks that's my version look something like that okay so why we when we started I said

00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000
we were going to do what why and how so we will we covered the what that's what the grass

00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,000
look like now we're going to cover the why we're going to look at some of the arm anatomy we're going to

00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:37,000
run you through a little test so basic shoulder movements we'll do some advanced shoulder movements at

00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:44,000
some point but basic shoulder movements is looking at flexion extension so flexion extension this way

00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,000
and then we've got horizontal abduction adduction so we're going off to the side we've got

00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:58,000
internal external or medial lateral rotation and then we'll move on to the shoulder blades so the

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shoulder blades can elevate or depress they can add duct or ab duct which moving in and out towards the

00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:16,000
spine or as you raise your arms up they will tend to upward or downward rotate there combos that you'll

00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,000
see where the shoulder does one thing when the shoulder blade does another it's virtually impossible

00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,000
to move just your shoulder without moving your shoulder blade or to move your shoulder blade without

00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:33,000
moving your shoulder okay normal range motion for the elbows pronation supination kind of looking like this

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and then fully unhing or flex so that leaves us with the last two movements being wrist movements so you've

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got hinge unhing and you've got flexion extension technically pronation supination is a forearm movement

00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:56,000
not a wrist movement now these are the two natural combinations so you've got

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flexion of the wrist comboed with ulnar deviation comboed with supination like this and you've got the

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opposite so you've got pronation comboed with slight extension and radial deviation kind of like that

00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:22,000
hey look at this we've got hogan talking about in demonstrating that natural combination now he says the

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left wrist begins the supinate at impact the wrist bone the raised wrist bone so he's by raising it he's

00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,000
talking about ulnar deviation the raised wrist bone points to the target now he says that it begins

00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:41,000
the supinate at impact he may have been really good at feeling when it crossed zero but what we saw

00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:48,000
on those graphs and what you can see here the wrist is supinating starting well back here and then

00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000
it finishes supinating here so he's describing that it's supinate starting here but it happens much

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earlier I'm a big fan of of teaching kind of a slow fluid release helps with consistency

00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:08,000
alright if you have trouble for remembering that combination just think of biting an apple so if you

00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,000
grabbed an apple and you were gonna bring it up to your mouth the elbow and supination is the joint

00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:20,000
of eating now there's one theory that that means it's more precise than going the opposite direction

00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,000
so if I'm going out that way I'm more about defense or attack and it's more about power it's not

00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,000
about precision but if I'm bringing something up to my mouth I've got to make sure that I'm bringing

00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:37,000
it in close that's one of the reasons why supination may be a more precise way of transferring

00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:45,000
energy or controlling the club than pronation but you can see the natural combination of flexing the

00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,000
elbow, supinating those are both done by the bicep and then older deviating and flexing to bring

00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:59,000
it towards the mouth alright so remember this is the graph that we're trying to discuss as far as

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why we can see those combinations of flexion, older deviation, supination with the trail rest you can see

00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,000
flexion, older deviation now those two are not lined up so there's some timings for the right

00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:20,000
risk where it's working against that natural combination partly fighting or working against

00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:29,000
some of the resistance of the club but you'll see the supination, flexion, older deviation pattern

00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,000
emerging on both graphs just slightly different with the trail rest alright why you can see the

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question mark here why don't I have 3D motion measurement of the shoulder um well from one I understand

00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,000
it's tricky I messaged Sasha McKenzie and talked to him at one point and he said trying to measure

00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:53,000
those shoulder movements that I described is similar to like trying to measure the individual

00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,000
forces of each finger it just gets really noisy and messy there's something called

00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,000
codman's paradox which is basically um when you have two linear motions with the shoulder sometimes

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you get a bleed over or there's a natural rotation um because the way that the the shoulder sits in

00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,000
the socket it kind of pivots as it goes up to the side so codman's paradox is usually described this

00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:23,000
way I have my arm facing my thumb is facing you I'm gonna bring my arm out to the side my thumb

00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,000
is still facing you I'm gonna bring my arm down so I did a linear movement I did horizontal

00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,000
abduction and then I did extension of the shoulder and now my thumb is pointing 180 degrees behind me

00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:41,000
so I did too linear movements and I ended up with 180 degrees of rotation there's some bleed over

00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,000
where possibly shoulder movements could be accurate for measuring in certain ranges close to neutral

00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,000
but towards the extremes you have no idea what movements were actually happening and with the current

00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:00,000
technologies so that creates some noise alright one way to work through

00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,000
why does this matter what you know I'm a big believer that the shoulder is just as important as

00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:15,000
the wrist if not more so so we're gonna do a little exercise so grab a pen and you're going to

00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:21,000
grab a sheet of paper grab a pen give it I'll keep stalling talk for a little bit what I want

00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:29,000
you to do is assume you got them both I want you to just sign your name alright so take 10 seconds sign

00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,000
your name now I want you to try and anchor your elbow and you're gonna sign your name just using your

00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:45,000
wrist really hyper focused on controlling the movement with your wrist good next or lastly

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I want you to now sign your name using your shoulder and you may find one's bigger or smaller

00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000
that's not what we're looking at but just sign it with the wrist sign it with the shoulder

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if you're like most people what you might have found is that one is more comfortable than the other

00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000
because you're used to doing it one way or the other but what you might have found is that the

00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,000
shoulder produced more fluid lines while the wrist produced more sharp and precise lines

00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,000
well the question becomes what do I want down during this release zone do I want more

00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:27,000
short precise movements or do I want larger fluid movements well if you talk to surgeons

00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:35,000
general surgeons not surgeons who do micro surgery like I've got a surgeon who works on eyes

00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,000
and he does it all with his wrist because it's really fine movements but if you talk to general

00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,000
surgeons or surgeons who are known for having steady hands typically control it more with the shoulder

00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,000
in addition artists typically do broad smooth lines with the shoulder and then go into

00:31:52,000 --> 00:32:00,000
do the tiny details with the wrist and one other that you can tell you know towards the end of the day

00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000
I need to shave again so shaving instructions if you're ever looking at details of shaving it's more

00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:13,000
of a shoulder movement to get large smooth lines not a wrist movement so there's possibly some

00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,000
maybe you know some ideas from other activities that could bleed over into golf as far as wanting

00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:25,000
to control this motion more with the shoulder so do we want more of the long gradual or short precise

00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,000
I think we might want more of the long gradual here's another argument for it which is

00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:40,000
if I'm controlling the movement with the shoulder then the movement is being driven by the muscles

00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
of the shoulder that's sending signals out from the spinal cord to the muscles of the shoulder that means

00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:50,000
that the muscles of the hand can be more sensing and feeling what's going on and helping make

00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,000
little small adjustments basically you can either send the information from the spinal cord out

00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:04,000
or it will come back from the muscle but it doesn't do both at the same time so if you are trying

00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,000
to sense and feel what the club is doing in respond to each swing in the little micro movements

00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,000
that are happening with the club it'd be better to have one part listening in order to have the

00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,000
hand listening that means that you can't be using the muscles creating a whole lot of force going out

00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,000
it'd be better to have the force and the movements driven by the shoulder and the fine motions

00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:33,000
kind of responding more with the hand okay so looking at the 3D graphs we talked about the

00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:40,000
bleed over the shoulder some of the graphs are more easy to read than others flexion extension is pretty good

00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000
supination pronation I'll show you there's some challenges with that radio known there as

00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,000
things pretty good this is the one that you have to be really careful about is interpreting pronation

00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:58,000
supination and saying that yeah that's exactly what I think I saw for example I've seen both of

00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:05,000
these 3D graphs you got fill over senderick who has more lead arm supination so in one case you can

00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,000
see the club is turned on an angle kind of like this and then the other one is pretty vertical there

00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:18,000
well what gives we'll we'll get into a test to help determine this but the shoulder has a big impact

00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,000
on how much supination so Henry cast actually has about 20 degrees more supination at this point than

00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:33,000
fill this and you can see here that because fills shoulder is in such great external rotation

00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,000
he wouldn't also be supinated or else the club would be actually pointing like way down there

00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,000
so the more that the shoulder stays blocked off or in internal rotation the more supination

00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,000
you'll have the more that the shoulder gives an external rotation the less supination you'll have

00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,000
okay remember what it looked like when we looked at the trail arm only graph well

00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:08,000
these two graphs if you were to look from just here over you'd see that there's some similarities there's

00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,000
definitely some differences especially in the blue graph here but through impact from here

00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:23,000
through here this is supinating this is only deviating this is waxing this is only deviating this is

00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:33,000
or yeah only deviating supinating waxing so here if we zoom in okay there's there's a little

00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000
difference here in the blue line where it's definitely this this guy's got more of a shallow

00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:46,000
moving than that one but there's some much more similar patterns here than you would expect to see

00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:53,000
with a good enough a poor golf swing okay so first we're gonna look at the one this is the

00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,000
good golfer and I'll let it play through twice and I just want you to

00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:10,000
observe so there it is kind of a regular speed and then here it is getting in the super slow

00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:21,000
mo so getting into frame by frame down through here and just look at the right arm okay pretty good

00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:31,000
looking right arm mechanics now we've got the golfer on the left so the graphs looks fairly similar

00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:40,000
we're slightly similar but on video we're starting to see some drastic differences

00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:47,000
right so the shoulder position is very different on this golfer than the other golfer but the

00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:54,000
forearm movements are quite similar so part of what we give this golfer low point in face control

00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000
issues is more what's happening at the shoulder not necessarily the forearms and you can use

00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,000
those forearms and risk graphs to see it but in my opinion the biggest difference is more

00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:11,000
happening what's at the shoulder so here's a picture the one is more across his body kind of like this

00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,000
the other one is way back here those are very different shoulder position orientations but as a result

00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:27,000
that forearm and that forearm are in quite similar positions so here it is again I'll just let you

00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,000
scan that you can pause it if you want to take a closer look but you'll see that there are

00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:39,000
some differences maybe in some timings but there's not as big a difference here in the graphs as you

00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,000
would expect to see based on those two videos okay so artistry is kind of knowing how to use the

00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:53,000
science to turn it into more of a coaching or more of a practical application so these pictures are

00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:01,000
sketches from Leonardo da Vinci one of the best artists and he was meticulous about measuring and mapping

00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,000
some of these ratios of how the face looked how the body looked all these proportions if you didn't

00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,000
have the proportions right the artistry looks like it was a mess because it just didn't look accurate

00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:18,000
you can use the graphs to kind of pinpoint some of these general things but then you also have to

00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:24,000
use video and some of your common sense and some of your feedback based on is a low point issue

00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:33,000
is it a clubface issue is it a power issue not just going off what the graphs say okay so I started

00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,000
at the beginning by saying what are my absolute absolute I want a really good arc with graph which is

00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,000
longer in the follow through and more of a plateau than a peak to get that I want both arms

00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
straightening or getting closer together through impact I want my flexion extensions the

00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,000
15 to 30 degrees probably closer to the 20 to 30 degrees but I included that because of a few

00:38:53,000 --> 00:39:01,000
outliers and then pronation supination the longer clubs you're going to have more supination

00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:07,000
than the shorter clubs during the release and the trail arm is going to tend to show more of a late

00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:13,000
pronation these are kind of my absolute for looking at a tour release how all right how do we train

00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:22,000
this whole arm to work well I'm going to show you one of the things that was let's say more popular

00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,000
or highly received at the work off fitness summit is this test I'm going to show you now which most

00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,000
of you probably seen the pelvis the torso disassociation test which is basically getting in your golf

00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,000
posture and seeing if you can turn your lower body or your upper body if you can move them independently

00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,000
what we're going to do the same thing for the arm because we saw that there's some bleed over with

00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,000
what happens with the forearm and what happens with the shoulder so here's what we're going to do

00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,000
we're going to do it at 90 degrees first so I've got my arms at my sides just like this can you move

00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:55,000
your palms out just like that this is moving the shoulder without moving the forearm now arms

00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,000
that your sides you're going to rotate palm up palm down this is moving the forearm without

00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:07,000
moving the shoulder so shoulder forearm now you're going to take one arm and you're going to put it

00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:14,000
up to your side just like so what I want you to do and I'll pull up my sleeves so you can see my elbow

00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:20,000
so without moving your elbow I want you to try and turn palm up palm down or moving the elbow as

00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:27,000
little as possible so this is moving the forearm without moving the shoulder next some of you may have

00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:33,000
had trouble just making note on that next keep the palm facing down and now I want you to turn

00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:41,000
elbow up elbow down so now this is moving the shoulder without moving before arm so you can do

00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:49,000
forearm without shoulder or shoulder without forearm just like you were doing here if you have a hard

00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,000
time differentiating or disassociating the two of those then typically what'll happen is when you

00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,000
go to move your forearm or your shoulder they'll be blended together what I've found is they golfer

00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000
so you tend to have more of a really big roll style release struggle mightily with that

00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:12,000
disassociation and golfer who are able to disassociate can more easily get the shoulder in a

00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,000
better position so that's a good thing that you can practice you can easily just you know put your

00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:23,000
arm on a bookshelf or something like that so kind of walk it down that'll help you stabilize the hand

00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:29,000
and you can learn to move the shoulder or you can take your arm and turn everything down so now everything

00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,000
went down together keep the elbow in its position and turn them forearm up because that's usually

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easier and then relax the shoulder and then try to get it right back where it was so I'll walk you through

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that little sequence again to learn how to move just the shoulder turn everything down then turn just

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the forearm now you're in the position the end position you're trying to get to there's like practicing

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follow through position now relax the shoulder and then get right back to where you were and you'll

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just get better and better at rotating the shoulder without moving the forearm okay like I said that

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was one of the more popular little segments at the world golf fitness summit if you have trouble you can

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focus on the awareness of doing either supported or that end range training that's why I just showed

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you and there's two different stretches that you can use one is thumb down one is thumb out so

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the two different stretches thumb down you're gonna hold your arm out turn thumb down you're going to

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block your hands so this stays vertical and then you're gonna bring it in towards your chest now you can

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add a little bit extra shoulder movement to help create an extra stretch by either pushing away

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or pushing down so that's thumb down and then the second one always I have to think about these is

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thumb out so thumb out now you're going to pull straight down keeping the hand vertical so you're going

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basically from your chin down towards your belly button and then you can move the elbow slightly away

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so I'm moving the elbow towards the camera to increase the stretch you know you don't with for our

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muscles you don't want to overdo it so you just want to do a nice gentle stretch hold it for about 30 seconds or so

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okay my favorite drills if you're a coach on the site you know that some of my favorite drills

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for training the arms for golfers who are willing to put in the work are the single arm drills which

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includes the open trail hand or the homework of doing the single arm throws I'm not going to go

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into these in great detail because you have these here on the site um effect they're linked over on the

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side so lead arm only big key here is looking at the motorcycle and looking at the connection of

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the upper body lower body or sorry upper body and arm so basically making sure that everything comes

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through together not pulling with the wrist going into extension or pulling with the shoulder so

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everything going through to control the bottom of the swing this is really a pivot drill um hidden

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as a hand awareness drill okay the trail arm the the key to that one is more of having that

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white movement and getting that arm to match up whenever you're doing single arm drills the train

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educated hands your goal is to get the same contact in ball flight regardless of which hand you're using

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then the open hand drill kind of combines them together we're basically you put your hands on

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you open the trail hand if you keep that connection of the lead arm and you keep that white

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movement going with some good motorcycle movement you will be able to maintain some pressure

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in that index finger on the club if you don't if you have more of a scoop then you'll tend to

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feel your hands slide so it gives really good instant feedback okay so we're just going to look

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at a couple case studies this is more of a golfer who had a lead arm priority okay so this is the

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kind of before version of his swing I'll just let everything play out and you can see a little bit

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kind of scoopy down there through the bottom okay this was the right arm you see decent wipe

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decent arm extension we'll see it again decent maybe a tiny bit of rotation he's a little stuck with

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his forms lead arm the risk position is pretty good but it's very much pulled across by his body

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this was actually after trying to train a little bit that was him trying to do the shadow

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for the first time and then that was him trying to do the shadow for the second time leading into

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the open hand this is after doing a little bit of shadow work or trail arm work and you can see that

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the arms kind of help each other out and sync up and clean up the pivot and help improve the

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low point okay this is more of a trail arm priority this one we got in slow motion

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so this is just the swing presented and you'll see that on the way through big chicken wing

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kind of scoop arm going into more trail arm rotation just like that now this is

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I don't think I have the lead arm on here but looking at the trail arm you'll see his first time

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has more of kind of a risk scoop elbows kind of coming up not so great we worked through that

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of getting a little bit more arm extension and then this was towards the end of the session

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he's worked on this now hard for close to a season he's actually really good at this now his

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is really saw in his nine to three is quite solid so by splitting up the hands you can get a sense of

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which do I need to prioritize is a more the left arm is a more the right arm is it more both

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and then usually it helps kind of lay out the chain reaction of what other things you might need to

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work on so we'll we'll jump ahead this was a case oh unfortunately it looks like this clip got

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inverted so yep let's see if they both get twisted so you what you won't be able to see

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unfortunately my work computer here seems to have some issues with that what you won't be able to see is

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this was a golfer who had kind of a a flinch style movement of the wrist and by working on

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getting the shoulder to lead the movement more of kind of this artist surgeon idea he was able to

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clean up some of the wrist stuff so if you see some funky wrist movement in a putting release

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you may also want to look at is he controlling it too much with the wrist and not enough with the

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shoulder because that was basically what we felt in this one okay so coaching concepts what makes good

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shoulder um what can cause shoulder problems or what can cause barriers that having these good

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shoulder movements even if you can't validate it with 3d you can observe it pretty well and you'll know

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when you start training it if it was the right thing based on the feedback that we get so vertical

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leg basically golfer who really tried to pull down and create more of the speed going at the ball

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instead of rotating and getting it going through the ball that can be a huge problem for creating proper

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wrist mechanics golfer who tended blocked that form from rotating and tend to want to really

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hold it off on the way through I'm okay with blocking from the shoulder but if you block from both the

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shoulder and the form you're going to tend to have a lot of problems down at the bottom

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but some golfer has the belief that their body should be facing the golf ball when the arms

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pass the body the arm mechanics are going to change they're they're going to when you pass the

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chest that arm is going to bend it's going to chicken wing so a tour golfer those arms won't

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pass the chest until way out here where the arc with this of the max amateurs will pass it when

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the arc with this at the max pretty close to impact that's a big barrier form or sports like playing tennis

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or cricket hockey can cause problems those can have some bleed over transition power sources so

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one little diagnostic I'll use is if you can do a good release for a 9 to 3 but then it breaks down

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when you go to full swing that tells me that it's either how you're creating speed or you're

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getting into a position when you make a full swing that makes it impossible for you to use what

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you can do in a 9 to 3 but basically looking at transition is it more of this vertical pull or

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arm tension or is it more upper body dominant instead of lower body dominant all those things can

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prevent you from having really good shoulder movements and then last one is the idea of basically hitting

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at the ball instead of rotating and swinging through the ball that's a big problem especially with

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the longer clubs okay so we covered where the release is we covered the absolutes you can go back

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to those slides some of the other stuff that I talked about here are more preferences but really

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look at that absolute slides and then you know how to use the single arm drills to help train someone's

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release they can do it in a 9 to 3 but can't do it in a full swing then it's typically a sign of

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more power source or they're out of position at the top of their swing okay next in the linear

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group speed we covered this arc with late flexion extension more an impact perination supination

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so getting some form rotation what are my favorite drills single arm drills all right so hopefully

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you learn a lot and hopefully you have some questions if you want to post them down below these are

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going to be discussion for coaches if there's really tough questions I'll cover them in the upcoming

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webinar but thanks for watching if you didn't get to attend hopefully this helped fill in the gaps

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and if you got to see it you didn't quite see the end of it including the case studies hopefully

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this gave you the pieces that you were missing so thanks again for being part of our program

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