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Back Side vs Front Side Rotation

Delve into the nuances of backside versus front-side rotation with Tyler in this insightful video. Tyler shares his recent discoveries regarding thoracic spine movement and muscle engagement, shedding light on how different rotational approaches impact the golf swing. With detailed explanations and practical demonstrations, Tyler offers valuable insights for refining techniques and optimizing performance on the course. Whether you're a seasoned golfer or just starting out, Tyler's expertise provides actionable advice for enhancing your swing mechanics and achieving greater consistency and control.

Tags: Poor Contact, Release, Concept, Intermediate

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This concept video is backside versus front side rotation.

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Um, so one of my, uh, kind of bigger understandings, uh,

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this in the last three, four months, um,

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has come from a few conversations that I've had with gee

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and, um, and some of the progress that I've had

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with my physical capabilities and my body

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and my thoracic spine.

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Um, and so that's led itself to, uh, this video

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and this understanding of

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what I'm calling backside rotation versus front side

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rotation, where basically looking at, uh,

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a muscle group called the transverse spins

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and the rotor is, these are some really small muscles

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that are, um, along the spine.

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I'll include a picture here, uh, so you can kind of see it.

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They're, they're at a slight angle, kind of like this,

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but they're very close to the spine.

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Um, if we are using those as, let's say the, the chief

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engine of the rotation, well, the exercise

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to reinforce it is a blend of an extension of the spine,

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kind of like this with a little bit of rotation

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and a little bit of, um, side bend.

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So it kind of looks like this.

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And if I did one side, then the other, it looks like this.

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And if you, if you see, um, when I do that, my head

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and everything stays a little bit more in line.

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Um, and I kind of get taller as I'm doing this, uh,

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movement that's called negative torsion.

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Now, if I was to do front side,

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so if I was gonna use the obliques, the oblique go from the,

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uh, kind of lower, uh, rib cage to the pelvis

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and into the, um, inner thigh of the opposite leg.

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And if I do an oblique crunch,

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you can see it looks like this and it kind

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of pulls my upper body down

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and it moves it a little bit forward.

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So if I did that kind of side to side,

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just focusing on the oblique, you'll see

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that my upper body has a little bit more translation.

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Um, so my big understanding as I've improved some of my

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personal ability to move my rib cage is

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that you want the dominant movement to be more of this, uh,

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negative torsion kind of going into this movement here.

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And you want the oblique to compliment the, uh,

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negative torsion where I think in the past, especially

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because of my posture and my ribcage, uh, creation or,

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or foundation, I would, I would emphasize more the feeling

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of the obliques.

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Um, the, the emphasis on the obliques came from, uh,

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I remember playing a 36 hole tournament back in college

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and, um, potentially is where I developed an, an injury,

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but the next day I was really sore in my right oblique

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and my right glute and I, that stuck with me as like, okay,

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this is one of the big engines of the golf swing.

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Um, also, you know, the obliques are very powerful.

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So for a lot of golfers feeling this front side rotation

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or feeling more, the oblique movement feels very powerful,

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where the back muscles are weaker,

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but they're so close to the spine, um, they,

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they can create a really kind of tight, um, quick

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movement rather than a big force wall movement.

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Where this tends to show up the most is either in the back

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swing when your upper body kind of sways off the ball,

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or more importantly is during the downswing.

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I see that at this as a release movement when golfers are

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trying to create a lot of force.

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If they do it more by kind of rotating the oblique,

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then you'll tend to see the head kind of drift forward

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and the body stay in a little bit more

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flexion on the way through.

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If you're doing it more with the, uh, back muscles there,

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kind of the upper, upper lumbar, lower thoracic kind

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of middle of the body here from about T six to L three,

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kind of middle of the body there.

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If I'm doing that movement as I'm coming through, then

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that tends to, uh, create this look of this full body finish

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and the, um, the upper body kind of chest up as opposed

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to down and forward.

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Um, so that down

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and forward, that kind of chase move on the way through, um,

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I think creates a lot

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of inconsistencies both in contact and direction.

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Typically causes poles can cause toe shots.

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Um, lots of, uh, direction issues

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where I think if you're getting more

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of this backside rotation

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or negative torsion, um, it tends to have more of a feeling

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of hitting it more with the body,

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less activity with the arms.

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And it helps support, um, a lot

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of the good arm movements that we like to do.

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Uh, and it helps control the low point depth,

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so it allows you to cover the ball better

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or have your upper body more over your front foot,

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especially for your kind of mid, mid

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and short irons and even into your wedges.

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So, um, there are definitely exercise

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or drills where I've focused on getting into this good

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bracing position, but maybe this is a little bit more

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of a technical understanding.

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Um, and if you're working with a trainer in the gym,

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you can try to incorporate a little bit more

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of these back muscles, the transverse of spins

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and the rot Torres, um, into your exercise program.

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So that makes it easier for you to feel some

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of this backside rotation

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through the ball rather than a dominant downward

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oblique action through the wall.

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Alright, so real quick demo.

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If I was gonna do an exaggerated oblique movement,

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it would kind of have more of a movement like that, um,

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where now if I was going to dominate with the back,

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but support it with the oblique.

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So, um, it's not like you're not using the obliques,

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they're just not dominant.

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Um, it will feel a lot easier to me in, in terms of effort.

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So it'll feel a little bit more, um, relaxed and big thing.

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It will feel a lot kind of taller,

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more like I'm stretching my abs, stretching my chest,

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stretching even my neck

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and getting into some of this good tall, full body finish.

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Um, I think that over the last few months has been one

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of the more profound, uh, movements

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that I've been teaching my students.

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It seems to clean up a lot

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of things in the finished position, learning how to rotate

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with your back muscles safely as opposed

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to dominating the movement with your obliques.

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