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Member Question - Hand Path at Bottom of Swing

Learn how the hand path moves at the bottom of the golf swing and how it impacts your contact and ball flight. In this video, we break down key concepts from a Chris Ryan video, addressing common concerns about shanking and pulling shots. Discover how the club and handle work together to create a shallow, consistent bottom of the swing through proper body movement and rotation. Watch now to improve your swing mechanics and ball-striking consistency!

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This concept video is discussing the member question about

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hand path at the bottom of the swing.

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Um, so a member asked the question about, uh,

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Chris Ryan video about hand path specifically, um,

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that the hands get furthest out, um, kind of at a,

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when the club is parallel in the downswing

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and then they work in on the way through.

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Um, and basically he had a lot of questions, comments about

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how does that not shank it?

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How does that, that not create poles?

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Um, so I just thought, uh, to his request, I would talk

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through what creates some of those looks.

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Um, so this ties into the flat spot idea

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that in order to create a more gradual bottom of the swing,

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I essentially want the handle moving in the opposite

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direction of the club head.

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So during the release

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or during impact, uh, not the whole release,

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but during impact

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and going into follow through, the handle is going

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to be moving slightly up

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and in as the club head is passing,

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what you'll see from the down the line compared

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to if I was moving kind of down

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and out with it, the height of the club

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and the path of the club would vary greatly.

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They would, it would be very diggy,

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it would move out that way.

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Where if I can move the handle this way,

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as the club head is releasing out, it, it softens the amount

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that it's moving into out

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and it softens the amount that it's moving high to low.

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Um, so it creates this flat bottom of the swing.

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Um, so there are some things that, uh,

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Chris was talking about in his video

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that I'll try to clarify.

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There are two, I think, big ideas here.

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One, what is the club doing compared to the ball,

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which we've already discussed?

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And then what is the club doing compared to the body?

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How do we marry those two compared to the body in order

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to create more stability in the, the forearms

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and the club head?

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Um, and in order to create maximum width control,

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I want the club, uh, moving from closer to my body

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to away from my body.

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So if I didn't move, um,

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and I just got the club kind

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of in a shaft parallel like this

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and I just used my arms, um, trying not to move my body,

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the club would move the grip

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and the club head would move out towards the golf

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ball and down.

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Now, Chris said in the video that the furthest out

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that the club is gonna be here

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and then it's working in towards your body.

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There's a small clarification, I would say.

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Uh, typically yes, the club is going to be,

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its furthest out, not quite app parallel.

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It's a little bit past there.

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Um, but then the club is going

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to be moving slightly away from the golf ball and in,

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but it's not working towards your body,

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it's working further away from your body.

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So how do you marry that in order

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to have the club working away from your body

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but globally moving up

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and in your body has

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to have rotation side bending going into extension

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or the movement we call negative torsion.

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Um, so if I get into this pattern

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and then I, I extended my arms,

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the club would move out towards the golf ball,

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both the club head and the grip.

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But if at the same time that I do that with my arms,

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my body is turning, then the club you can see compared

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to the golf ball is actually following my body rotation

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and moving around to the left and up.

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Because at this point my shoulders are tilted,

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I'm going into extension and my body is rotated

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and my arms are simply following that path of the body, kind

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of going more this way.

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But in order to not have it go that way quite so extreme,

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my arms are going to be extending, um, down the line

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or extending away from my body.

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So that's one of the pieces

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that I don't think he necessarily highlighted in his video

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that could cause some confusion.

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For a lot of golfers, it's gonna feel like the club, um,

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the whole club is traveling down through impact.

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Um, but if you actually have the club, the grip end

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of the club traveling down through impact, the contact

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with the ground would be very diggy.

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So if you feel like the club is moving down through impact

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and you have some good, um, compression

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or your hands are ahead,

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but it's not too diggy,

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then rest assured you're probably doing

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some good things with your body.

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Moving the club away from the ground

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as the club head is moving down towards the golf wall.

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So the club

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is getting into this further out position here, but then

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because of the bracing movement of the body

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complimented by the arms getting further away,

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those offset each other

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and create a really, um, flat bottom of the swing

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or shallow bottom of the swing with the bottom

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of the swing far, um, enough

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or pretty much as far as you can in front of the golf ball,

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um, allowing you to make more consistent contact

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as well as control the clubface.

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So hopefully this ties together what's going on

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with the arms and hands down at the bottom, I have lots

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of drills on how

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to train the arms working into this more wider position

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as opposed to kind of scooping and pulling in.

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Um, and I have lots of drills to work on the sequencing

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and the body position, uh, both controlling the distance

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as well as the, um, rotational sequencing, mastering

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that combination will help give you really high level, um,

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consistency of ground contact as well as club face control.

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Two of the hallmarks of the stock tour swing

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that we're all trying to build.

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So club is at its kind of lowest

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and furthest out right around here as it moves,

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as the body moves up and away.

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If we did that a little bit more dynamically,

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it just looks normal.

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